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Younus AlGohar Speaks to the Virakesari Newspaper
3rd June 2016|ArticlesInterviews

Younus AlGohar Speaks to the Virakesari Newspaper

Younus AlGohar Speaks to the Virakesari Newspaper

A delegation from the Virakesari Newspaper in Sri Lanka recently visited Younus AlGohar to discuss a variety of topics. The following are highlights from the interview.

On Spirituality: the Core of Religions

Messiah Foundation International is purely a spiritual movement. It has nothing to do with any religion.

Converting from one religion to another does not make any difference. It depends on the man. If you are a bad man, you will be a bad Christian; and if you leave Christianity and adopt Islam, you will be a bad Muslim. It is about the character of the man.

Spirituality has the answer. Spirituality will fix the man and make him a wonderful person with love and compassion. Spirituality is about bringing the attributes of God in a human being so he gets rid of hatred, greed, jealousy and arrogance; he begins to understand that everybody is the creation of one God. This happens when the inner devil is taken care of. Spirituality provides inner purification.

This the core of Buddhism, Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism), Sufism (Islam) and Kabbalah (Judaism). The message is the same, the outer is different. We are not talking about religions; we are talking about the core of religions. Spirituality is about becoming good and lovable. It is about coexisting in a [multi-religious, multicultural] society.

Everybody appreciates love, but it is very difficult to follow love, because there is something inside us which does not allow us to love everybody. Something inside us only prompts us to love ourselves. Everybody is thickly and deeply in love with himself. If you love yourself, you will not love anybody else. When you love everybody, that is when you a good human being.

Self-love will make you a monster; you will deprive everybody else of their rights.

You will want to grab everything for yourself, and that is causing problems.

Through spirituality, you will begin to love humanity and God. If you claim to love God but you hate his creation, that is not true love.

God is the one who created everybody; if you have true love of God, you will love everybody no matter who they are. People talk about love, but love is not easy to obtain. There are certain things in us that prevent us from the practice of love. Every human being is born with a negative source, a negative spirit. That spirit pushes him to do wrong, to hate, to obtain power and money, and deprive all others [of their rights]. That evil spirit is purified only with the help of spirituality.

This is what we are working on: raising awareness of spirituality among people of all religions.

Now we have so many problems coming out from religions: extremism, fanaticism, terrorism. This is because the religions have been modified; this is the not the original teachings of any religion. God doesn’t allow any human being being to kill another human being.

According to Judaism, if you kill somebody, you have destroyed your religion. The same thing is found in Islam. Prophet Mohammad said, Killing one person is equal to killing the entire humanity.’ It is very unfortunate that we have some Muslims in this world today who think that by killing people, they will go into heaven. Something is wrong; they have deviated from the true teachings of Islam. On the other hand, in Islam, we have Sufis who love everybody.

Bawa Muhaiyaddeen was a Sufi; he was Tamil and he couldn’t speak English. He went to the USA, where he would deliver lectures in Tamil and people were so inspired by his presence and the amount of love he shared with them. He would read the Quran and Jews, Hindus and Christians all would read the Quran with him. He was giving love to everybody. He never asked them to become a Muslim. Whether or not you are a Muslim, you are still creation of God. We should learn to love everybody. Such Sufis were the prime example of God’s presence on Earth. This is what we need in Sri Lanka today. People should practise spirituality, forget about their differences.

Without inner purification, people will never forget differences. Without inner purification, people will never get rid of hatred.

If a bulb is not working because the filament is burnt, no matter how many times we plug it in, it will not work until we fix the filament.

Similarly, no matter how many times we go to a temple, mosque, church or synagogue and listen to any number of religious scholars, nothing is going to change unless we go through this inner purification.

When you become a spiritual man, you serve all religions.

‘Buddha’ simply means enlightened one. When you enlighten yourself, you become Buddha. Hinduism is all about spirituality. ‘Aham Brahmasmi’ means ‘Brahma is inside me.’ Only those go to a temple who think Brahma, Vishnu and Krishan Ji are sitting in the temple. Those who bring them in their heart become holy; they become gurus.

The knowledge of spirituality is very secretive. With the help of this knowledge, every human being on Earth will become a holy person. This is the solution but we need to raise awareness of this knowledge.

This knowledge was not available, but it was part of every religion. When it was separated from religion, religion became useless. Even today, Muslims who do not practise Sufism are causing problems. Those who practise Sufism are good Muslims. Similarly, those who practise spirituality are good Hindus. Those who practise Kabbalah teachings are good Jews.

We need the knowledge of purifying our human instincts.

Due to greed, arrogance and jealousy, our human attributes have gone down and the animal attributes have come up. We look like human beings, we eat and walk like human beings, but we act like animals.

Religions have separated themselves from spirituality, this is why people are suffering. Although they are going to mosques and temples every day, they are not changing. In fact, you will see that a simple man may be a little better than those who are going to mosques and temples every day.

It is about the character, not about the religion. If a religion does not fix you and make you a good human being, it simply means the religion is not going inside your heart.

This is because you have lost the knowledge which would put the religion inside your heart; instead, the religion is only restricted to your lips. Spirituality is the knowledge which will purify your heart and enlighten you.

God has no religion. He sent many prophets and messengers and all of them brought down God’s message. No prophet or messenger said, ‘Go kill and hate people.’ The message of God is love. This love is achieved through practice of spirituality.

The force behind our body is our soul. When the soul leaves the body, the body is dead.

The knowledge which will revive and activate the soul is spirituality. The is the knowledge that awakens the soul. If your soul is dormant, you may be going into temples and churches, but you won’t be changing. Religion should change you. If you are a beast before you follow a religion and, after 20 years of practice of a religion, you’re still a monster, the religion is not changing you.

Religion is about character: changing the man from bad to good.

On Purification of the Ego

Sometimes you know what is good and bad, but then you feel something inside you is pushing you to do bad. Sometimes, you overcome the desire to do bad; sometimes you have weak moments in which you get carried away. [Spirituality helps] you overcome the force which inside you pushing you to do bad.

Spirituality concentrates on your inner man. For this, you don’t have to convert from one religion to another. Even if you don’t practise any religion, you don’t need it. You need to become good and spirituality can do that for you.

You’re already a Hindu, Christian or Muslim. If you follow spirituality, then you will become a good Muslim or Hindu, because your inner will be enlightened. The problem is not because of Muslims or Hindus; the problem is with bad Muslims, bad Hindus, bad Jews and bad Christians. They’re bad because their soul is not awakened. We need to fix that problem.

We teach people how to awaken the soul.

A lot of gurus come to Sri Lanka and talk about meditation. If your soul is not awakened, what will meditation do for you? [In their versions of meditation] with the power of visualisation, you imagine yourself in a garden or flying. This is a story; this isn’t meditation.

A true meditation is one in which your soul is awakened. You concentrate on your soul and your soul leaves the body. It reaches it heights, sees God and meets with different spiritual people or angels. That will happen when the soul is enlightened.

Our message for everybody is how to get rid of the hatred and the source of hatred. We have heard a lot of lectures. We have heard the Quran and Bible, but by hearing and listening to the lectures, nothing is changing. We are still the same.

If you have fever, medicine must be taken. Simply talking about the medicine will not solve the problem.

We say, ‘Everybody should love each other,’ but how? Everybody wants to love. When we see people are suffering, for a moment or two, we tell ourselves, ‘They are also human beings. They should not be suffering.’ Then we forget [about them]. We don’t practically force ourselves to do good because we don’t have any force inside us [to push us to do good]. The only force inside us is the force that drives us to do negative things.

Somebody is inside us which is stopping us from becoming good.

According to the Quran, when you go into a mosque, the prayer you do will stop you from doing bad. According to Islam, if you talk bad about somebody in their absence, for God, it is worse a sin than committing adultery. This is how strict God is about our character.

If I have five or six brothers and one of them becomes a Muslim and another becomes a Hindu, the fact that they are my brothers will never change. Just because they are my brothers, I will never want to harm them. In a similar way, we are progeny of Adam and creation of the same God. Why do we forget that before being a Muslim, Christian or Jew, we are brothers? Having the same father makes us brothers; what about the same God? God is greater than our father.

We have lost this message because our souls are dormant. When we all learn to purify our souls, the negatively will depart our bodies. Although we will still remain to be Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims, we will learn to appreciate that everyone is the creation of the same God and that nobody is lower or greater than anybody else.

The only thing that will make you greater person than others is the amount of love you have for God and humanity.

[Your greatness depends on] how tolerant you are to others, how peaceful you are and how helpful you are. That will happen when the source of evil is rooted out with the help of spirituality and God’s energy and love enter the heart. That is our message.

On the Method of Enlightenment

Spiritually, we transmit divine light into the heart. That light will enter the heart. For example, we will transmit the light of Ra Raam; it will enter your heart. Then you will be sleeping and your heart will keep saying, ‘Ra Raam’. Even when you are sleeping, it goes on because the heart doesn’t stop. The constant invocation of Ra Raam will produce divine energy, which will purify your souls. You don’t have to practise it; it is the practice of your soul.

Spirituality is not done by the physique. It is to be done by the soul.

Once the divine energies enter into the soul, it will become a volunteer. You will feel you are becoming a good person. You will notice that source that drags you to do bad is going away. You won’t feel like doing wrong things.  [You may start to feel love for someone you previously hated]. That will happen when God’s light accumulates in the heart.

Today, people have everything: business, money, women, etc. but some people still feel there is no peace in life.

Your body has everything; your soul needs something. The food of the soul is love and God’s light.

This is why you have all the luxuries of life, even then you feel a little uneasy and you lack peace of mind and heart. That is the demand of the soul, ‘I need some divine energy, I need some love.’

When love is missing from life, it is because the soul is not awakened. You need to awaken the soul.

This is not a method invented by me. It is a God-gifted method. God taught it to everybody. All prophets and messengers who came had this knowledge. Anyone who became a guru became a guru because of this knowledge.

We are addressing the souls. It is the practice of the soul. There is no physical activity because it is about souls. Spirituality is about the souls. The source of the body is the soul. When the soul is good, the body will be good.

People have so many diseases today; this is because the soul is weak inside. When you empower their souls, they will be healed. Thousands of people came to me and we did spiritual healing on them. Many people who were suffering from heart diseases came and their health was restored.

They take the divine energy and when their soul is fixed, their problems go away.

On the Different Names of God

There is no such thing as Muslim God or Hindu God. We have given different names to him, but there is only one God. Ra Raam, God, Bhagwan and Vishnu are different names but God is the same.

There are different names for water in Tamil, Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Hindi, French and other languages, but the substance is the same. Similarly, different names have been given to God, but the supreme power is the same. He doesn’t change. You can’t say he is only for Muslims or Hindus. God has many names.

Any name for God is great and worthy of respect.

One thing is important. According to science, our voice has vibration and energy. This energy does not die. In a similar way, God’s name, when we say it, is transformed into vibration. Some names have stronger vibrations; it depends. [There are varying potency levels for medicine] like Paracetamol: there is 500 mg and then we have 200 mg. The stronger the medicine is, the quicker it will work.

The name ‘Ra Raam’ is very strong. This is the only difference [between the names of God is] potency. Otherwise, you can call him with any name: you can call him Vishnu, Krishna, Allah, Bhagwan, God, Eloha, Elohim, etc.

On the Holy Black Stone

The Holy Black Stone (Maha Shiv Lingham) was brought by Shankar Bhagwan (Adam the Eminent One) from the heaven. The image of Kalki Avatar was placed inside. When he brought it down, he asked everybody to respect it and worship it. He put it in Kaaba, which is now a Muslim place.

Even according to the Quran, no human being should be stopped from going and worshipping the Holy Black Stone. Visiting that place has been made obligatory by God upon all human beings. This is oppression and tyranny that Muslims do not allow other religions to go there. The Quran directs that the entire humanity should be allowed to go there, but they don’t allow it, which means they don’t follow Quran.

Before Islam, the Kaaba had 360 idols. The Holy Black Stone was one of them.

According to Muslim beliefs, the Holy Black Stone is very sacred and the pilgrimage of Hajj is incomplete if you do not touch it, kiss it or receive blessings from it. It is sacred.

It created confusion among minds of many Muslims. They thought, ‘Hindus worship stones in their temples and when we come to Kaaba, we are also worshipping a stone. So what is the difference between Islam and Hinduism?’ Both religions come from God; it is the understanding and the method that differs. There is not much difference.

The Holy Black Stone is sacred for all human beings. All prophets kissed it, even Mohammad, the Prophet of Islam. Whenever he would come near the Holy Black Stone, he would cry in love.

On the Future and Terrorism

The future is good. The only religion that will come is the Religion of God: love. You’re all one, so love each other with the power of God’s love.

There will be two groups: people of hatred and people of love. Those who are good people will join the group of love no matter what religion they practise. People of hatred will join the other group which comprises the Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Wahhabism, etc.

Sometimes bad things are given a good label; people can only see the outer shape, outer layer, but they don’t know that this is bad. [In that case] they’re victims, but they should use their brain. It is not like God gave some people a brain and others were left without brains.

If I give you Panadol or Paracetamol for your fever, it is very familiar. However, if you say, ‘I never heard of this medicine before,’ you will definitely resist and research. You want to know what you’re taking. That is your duty.

If I give you poison and say, ‘This is Paracetamol,’ and you’re so naive that you don’t even want to know what you’re eating, who will you blame when you’re dead? It is about your life. Before taking the medicine, you should know what it is. Similarly, if somebody is telling you about your religion, you should study it. Consult the source of knowledge of your religion; for Islam, it is the Quran and the practice of Prophet Mohammad.

Someone who is becoming a Jihadi is a potential fool. It is all about lust and sex, not religion. If I tell you, ‘Kill that man and I’ll give you 70 women,’ you’re doing it for your lust, not your religion. If God announces today, ‘You can do anything to please me, but there is no reward,’ they won’t do it. God does not want you to kill anybody. For you, you may be Tamil or Sinhalese and someone else may be Indian or Pakistani, but for God, you’re all children of God. He wants to love everybody equally. He doesn’t care whether you’re born in Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan, America or the UK.

As I was saying, bad things have been given good labels and good things have been given bad labels. It is like there is a piece of gold and covered with silver, and there is a piece of silver covered with gold. Obviously, you will take the one which looks like gold. You do not know how to recognise what is gold and what is silver. You need to have the power of recognition.

People are sold on this idea of Jihad: why practise religion for 20-30 years when you can go to paradise in five minutes? This is a shortcut, but this is all wrong. This is not Jihad; this is hatred and God doesn’t like it.

God can use tsunamis, earthquakes or thunder. God does not need terrorists.

One tsunami can wash away thousands of people. For those who say, ‘We are God’s warriors,’ no, they’re not. God doesn’t need them. God can kill anybody, anywhere, at any time.

One thing is imminent: Kalki Avatar is the final destroyer. He will destroy [the terrorists], not good people.

There will be a final battle. On one side, there will be people of Kalki Avatar, Jesus Christ and Imam Mehdi. They will give justice and love to everybody. On the other side, there will be people of hatred, whoever they are.

The forces of Jesus Christ, Mehdi and Kalki Avatar will form a greater alliance. They will defeat them. With the help of God, they will overcome and overpower them. This place will become a beautiful place. There will be no hatred. Imam Mehdi will fill the Earth with justice. There will be no killing, no hatred and no fights. This will happen soon. We’re going in that direction.

Most of these terrorists were already gangsters.

When someone does bad things, they want to do it, but because they are a Christian or Muslim also, they think, ‘What I am doing is wrong and my Muslim brothers and sisters perceive I am a wrong person.’ They continue to do wrong things, but they have this burden of guilt.

People were told, ‘Come join ISIS and you will have more girls and women to sleep with than you have now, you will be able to use more kalashnikovs and guns and kill people than you are now – and you will do all this without guilt because you’re doing this for God.’ When you give this kind of concept to criminals, they feel sheltered. This is pure evil. Only one group among Muslims have this attitude and that is Wahhabis.

Wahhabis  don’t consider any other Muslim as a true Muslim.

If you are a Muslim and you do not agree with Wahhabism, Wahhabis think you are worse than non-Muslims.

This is why thousands of people are killed in Pakistan. Every day there is a suicide bombing in Pakistan. Most Pakistanis are Muslims; why are they killing Muslims?

It is not about Islam. It is about Wahhabism.

If you are not Wahhabi, they think you are not a true Muslim. They want the world to be a Wahhabi-dominated society. It is oil money; Saudi Arabia wants to become the superpower through the industry of terrorism.

There is no more Islam in practice. The Islam which was established by Prophet Mohammad is not in practice; they don’t believe in that Islam. This is their own version of Islam in which there is no blessing, love, compassion, respect for humanity or respect for women. This is their Islam; it was not designed by God. The one that has been designed by God was Sufi Islam, which they rejected. Sufi Islam promotes love and peace.

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Younus AlGohar’s Interview with ThatChannel.com
17th March 2016|InterviewsVideos

Younus AlGohar’s Interview with ThatChannel.com

Younus AlGohar recently visited Toronto, Canada, where he gave an interview with ThatChannel.com. There, he spoke on a variety of topics including going beyond religion and becoming the character/image of God. Man receives attributes of God, which is how we become compassionate and kind. He also spoke on the concept of the awaited one in all religions.

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Younus AlGohar’s Interview with Siyatha TV
13th November 2015|ArticlesInterviews

Younus AlGohar’s Interview with Siyatha TV

Younus AlGohar’s Interview with Siyatha TV

The following are selected excerpts from Younus AlGohar’s interview with Siyatha TV in Sri Lanka.

Religions and the Spiritual System

All the religions were established by great personalities. These personalities were sent by God, so no religion is bad. However, what happened in the last 100-200 years is that almost every religion has lost the spiritual system.

As a result of this spiritual system being destroyed, people are not truly aware of the soul of their religion, of the principle message of their religion.

This is why most Muslims are not good Muslims, most Hindus are not good Hindus and most Christians are not good Christians. And of course Buddhists who are not good Buddhists are so because they are not properly doing what they have been taught to do. This happens when you lose enlightenment, when you lose connection with God.

The problem is: people are still religious but something is wrong with their methodology. Some important part of the knowledge of the religion is missing. This is why they are misled into wrongdoings. When the youth see these religious people, they are not inspired by them because they always fighting. They are full of hatred.

The youth will never be inspired by these religious people; however the youth will be inspired by spirituality. The youth want to see results.

When they adopt spirituality and they feel good, they feel strength and they feel uplifting of their soul, they will definitely be inspired by spirituality. They will never be inspired by these religious people because they are not making any progress either within themselves or within the society. They are only making it worse, fostering more hatred and intolerance.

Spirituality is the key and solution to the existing problems.

Nowadays, people are changing their religions. I don’t think it’s going to make any difference because nobody is connected to God through any religion.

All religions come from God. If you are a Muslim and you want to study Hinduism, what is wrong with it? Hinduism also came from God. If you are a Muslim and you want to study the Bible, what’s wrong with it? The Bible also came from God. There is only one God. Either you are Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Jew or a Buddhist; it’s the same God, just different names. These objects are different manifestations of the same God.

Because of the lack spiritual knowledge in all these religions, people have become intolerant.

I’ll give you an example: one man works as a doorman, another works as an anchor and the third person works as a Chief Executive – but nobody is getting a salary. Does it make any difference? He is a doorman, he doesn’t get a salary. You are an anchor; you don’t get your salary. The Chief Executive doesn’t get his salary. So basically, you are not getting anything.

In a similar way, when you are a Muslim and you are not connected to the God. It doesn’t make any difference whether you become a Hindu, a Muslim or a Christian. If you are not connected to God; nothing is working for you. If you were connected to God as a Muslim, you would never leave your religion. If you are connected to God as a Buddhist, you would never leave your religion – because then it would not be about the religion. You would be connected with God.

You would respect that religion, because through that religion, you were connected to God.

A Brief Introduction to Kalki Avatar Lord Ra Gohar Shahi and His Mission

Lord Ra Gohar Shahi is sent by God and there are Divine Signs [proclaiming His advent].

His images have become prominent on the Moon, the Sun, on Mars and the Holy Black Stone. The Holy Black Stone is greatly revered and people, out of love and affection, kiss it. It is believed that when they kiss it, all their sins are washed away. God has manifested his signs in the form of images of His Divine Grace Lord Ra Gohar Shahi and people all over the world believe Lord Ra Gohar Shahi to be Kalki Avatar, Imam Mehdi and Messiah.

According to the divine plan, His Divine Eminence Kalki Avatar/Imam Mehdi/Messiah Gohar Shahi is here for the entire humanity, for everybody in this world. It is not physically possible for everybody to see him in person. That’s why these images have become prominent. If people look at the Moon, when they see the image of HDE Gohar Shahi, they can speak with that image and they will have a reply. They can also receive spiritual healing and spiritual grace. All those things can be obtained from the image on the moon.

He is love, He is for everybody and His purpose on Earth is to teach everybody love and peace. [He is] uniting all humanity.

Kalki Avatar Lord Ra Gohar Shahi is not a physical doctor; he is doing something which nobody can do. He can heal the wounds of the soul.

These wounds of the souls cannot be healed in any hospital by doctor. So people will approach His Divine Grace Lord Ra Gohar Shahi for their spiritual ailments and spiritual wounds – which nobody can [heal]. And His blessings are for everybody without any hindrance, without any limitations, without any discrimination for everybody.

Kalki Avatar right now is in occultation and physically is not making any appearances to common people. However, the time will come when he will become apparent and people will be able to meet with him. Through our representatives you may be in conversation with Lord Ra Gohar Shahi.

Prescribed Method of Meditation

Meditation that we propagate is a little different than what others describe. This meditation that we promote is done after the enlightenment of the heart and the soul. When the soul is enlightened, when the heart is enlightened then the souls inside our body become worthy of making a spiritual journey. When the journey is performed by these souls and they arrive at their respective spiritual station that is called meditation.

His Divine Grace Lord Ra Gohar Shahi has penned down a book on spirituality and this book is available online and it can be downloaded. It is available on www.amazon.com and other international book stores. If people study this book, they will understand the purpose of life. Maybe it will bring a change in their lives.

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‘You need to understand Wahhabism in order to understand why the world is going through the worst page of history.’ – Younus AlGohar
6th November 2015|ArticlesInterviewsVideos

‘You need to understand Wahhabism in order to understand why the world is going through the worst page of history.’ – Younus AlGohar

‘You need to understand Wahhabism in order to understand why the world is going through the worst page of history.’ – Younus AlGohar

The following are from Younus AlGohar’s Interview with ThatChannel.com

On Islamophobia

I do not know whether Islamophobia is the just term; it is a word that I personally do not agree with because the world has no fears or threats coming out from Islam. It’s a group of people who claim to be Muslims and they do not practice Islam. They are becoming a global threat. The term should be Wahhabiphobia. There is a particular denomination in Islam that does not consider any other Muslim as Muslims for except themselves.

[Wahhabis are] the ones who have been radicalised and who are responsible for spreading this radicalisation all over the world, especially among the Muslim youth.

The West shouldn’t be worried about Islam because Islam is not a threat to any part of the world. Islam is just like any other monotheist religion under the banner of Abrahamic Faiths, like Christianity or Judaism. Islam has the same roots [as them] and Islam is not a threat.

However, how people interpret and understand Islam – that’s the main issue today.

Radicalisation is really a worrying aspect of the Muslim world and we are working on it. We are trying to raise awareness of the fundamental and principle values of the religion which are the same in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. All of these are monotheist religions. Basically, the principle directives from God are the same in all three religions.

On the Role of Wahhabism and Saudi Arabia

It is very difficult. We are not hearing the accurate news from the channels. We do not know what is going on. However, I can tell you terrorism is not imported in any country.

For example, terrorism is not coming to Canada [from a foreign country]. You will have terrorism from a Muslim house in Canada. It will come from the Muslim house whose children have been going to a mosque. They believe their children are learning from the Quran and understand the religion – but in few years’ time, they will come to know that their sons have gone to Syria to become jihadists.

You do not become a jihadist overnight. You are not radicalised in few hours; it’s a mindset. It is a theory.

This theory is coming from this particular denomination in Islam, Wahhabism.

You need to understand Wahhabism in order to understand why the world is going through the worst page of history.

Wahhabis want to rule the world. They think they have the purest form of Islam and have the right to take their doctrine to every corner of the globe. Whoever accepts it becomes their friend and ‘part of Islam’. Whoever does not accept it – even if they are Muslims from other denominations of Islam – they’re alien to them. Wahhabis are so intolerant; they do not want to see anybody else for except themselves.

This Wahhabi thought-process is very intolerant – [it is especially taught] in the mosques which are funded by Saudi Arabia.

There are two things in Saudi Arabia:

1 – The Saudi Royal Family

2 – The Religious Regime

Terrorism is the combination of both.

The religious doctrine is coming from their religious scholars and money is coming from the Royal Family.

What the world sees is different [from reality]. The world will see the Royal Family coming and meeting with David Cameron, Bush, Obama etc. Obviously, they look very holy and display very meek characters. You will never imagine they can be funding terrorists. However, they are the main mastermind and they are working in collaboration with their religious regime in Saudi Arabia.

On Why the Saudi Royal Family is Hypocritical

The internet is full of news. Everybody knows that [Saudi Arabia is funding terrorism].

This is the thing: people have to be diplomatic. On one side, there are some political issues and behind the scenes, something else is going on. Sometimes you cannot verbalise what you have seen because there are so many fatal consequences. If you alienate [yourself] from the international world community, you will suffer. So they have to show something and they have to do certain things behind the scenes.

We are living in a very hypocritical world. Sometimes diplomacy is hypocrisy.

I say it loudly and clearly that the Saudi Royal Family is supporting terrorism all over the world.

On How to Give Hope to the Youth

Give them understanding of spirituality. Give them understanding of the value of human life, mutual tolerance and harmony in the society. Tell them things that they can understand that they can relate to. If we tell them stories that they do not relate to, they will never understand.

On the Future

What I see today worries me a lot,  but then my faith and belief in God gives me hope that future is bright and there will be no hatred. Everybody will love everybody else and we will be living in a perfect brotherhood, in a universal society.

We can have hope for hope. I personally believe the future is full of love after a period of darkness.

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ThatChannel.com: Islamophobia and Radical Islam in Today’s Society
27th October 2015|InterviewsVideos

ThatChannel.com: Islamophobia and Radical Islam in Today’s Society

Interview on the Liquid Lunch programme with Hugh Reilly and co-host Sandra Kyrzakos. Younus AlGohar opens up about his views on radical Islam (Wahhabism), Islamophobia and the tensions between different groups.

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Younus AlGohar’s Interview with the Sunday Leader
26th October 2015|Uncategorised

Younus AlGohar’s Interview with the Sunday Leader

Younus AlGohar’s Interview with the Sunday Leader

The following is the transcript of Nirmala Kannangara’s interview with Younus AlGohar, the CEO of Messiah Foundation International. For the piece published in the Sunday Leader, visit this link.

Your Holiness, can I know when you started your missionary work and what prompted you to start it? It will be very interesting for my readers. 

It is a very simple question but the answer is very lengthy.

I was born in a Muslim family. When you are born into a certain religious environment, you are strictly involved in that religion and you don’t want to know about any other religion. To a certain degree you become short-sighted, and so was I, because I was not exposed to any other form of the truth. I was only aware of Islam.

As I grew into a man from a boy, I wanted to practise the religion but I did not feel connection with God and I saw a lot of contradictions.

I didn’t see what I studied in the religious books of Islam being practised. People practised quite the opposite of what is taught in the religion. For example, they are told, ‘Do not harm others, take care of everybody and love everybody,’ but I did not see that amongst people. I was really perplexed, very restive and I stopped practising the religion.

Did you question your parents about matters of religion?

I questioned religious scholars. I used to go to a mosque and question the religious scholars about why there are so many different denominations within Islam – why one group of Muslims believes in one thing and the another group rejects the ideology of the first group altogether. Why are there so many differences, whereas they all study and believe in the same Quran? They didn’t have answers; they just wanted to prove that they were right and the other group was wrong.

I was a little more fed up than people normally are. So I stopped practising and I focused on my studies.

One day, I met somebody in my college library and he told me about His Divine Eminence Lord Ra Riaz Gohar Shahi. He said that His Divine Eminence is a great spiritual, universal master and that I must see Him.

I was a little hesitant. I told him, ‘Look, I’m already fed up with the religion. If you take me there and I am further confused, then you are in hot waters.’

But I went there with him and I listened to the discourse given by His Divine Grace Lord Ra Riaz Gohar Shahi. It was all about divine love, spirituality, how to be able to love and [it showed] hatred for nobody. So I started to practise spirituality and I found the content of my heart straightaway.

I felt some light emanate from His Divine Eminence Gohar Shahi and it entered into my heart. I felt immense pleasure and an overwhelming sense like something is empowering me. I rejoiced; I was very happy internally.

I instantly realised, ‘This is where I belong.’ 

After that day, I followed His Divine Eminence Gohar Shahi’s instructions and teachings. After a few years, I found out that humanity is the best religion and we should not hate anybody. Everybody is the creation of God; Hindus should not hate Muslims and Muslims should not hate Hindus.

Then, my mind engrossed the even vaster understanding of creation. It engrossed the meaning of love; how we should respect each other’s presence and religions.

It was spiritual knowledge plus application – how to apply spirituality in our day to day life. The teachings of HDE Gohar Shahi were not merely a chapter from any sacred book. Rather, it was a divine spiritual formula by the practice of which you can activate your souls, spiritualise them and be able to connect to the divine powerhouse: God. The same God who created all prophets and messengers, who made all these religions established by these prophets.

Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism – they are different paths leading to one destination. That’s what I realised.

So I then started to spread the word around. We have taken this mission to all continents of the globe, [visiting] Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Sri Lanka, India, and Pakistan, countries in Europe, the United States of America and Canada. We have branches all over the world.

Especially given the circumstances where Islamic terrorism is taking its toll and a lot of people are suffering – it has become a threat to the peace of the globe – these teachings are very important for people to adopt.

This is the only one solution for the world to stop radicalisation which is taking place very rapidly all over the world.

Many different religions are getting radicalised and people are becoming intolerant. They are become extremists and fanatics. You become a fanatic and extremist when you are not connected to God.

[When you are an extremist] you only think of yourself and your group; you think you are the best and everybody else is bad – and that they do not have the right to live in this world.

When you learn to respect humanity, you don’t become an extremist. You have a soft heart and a soft corner for everybody.

I gained  a lot of experience being born in Pakistan, where there are religiously rigid people. They are so rigid in their understanding that another group within Islam is not tolerated by them, let alone other people of different religions.

Coming out from that background and becoming a spiritual leader and talking about peace will surprise everybody, including yourself!

It really surprises people when they listen to me, and towards the end they ask me, ‘Where were you born?’ and I tell them, ‘I was born in Pakistan.’ They can’t believe their ears.

Can you change [people’s] attitudes about being Pakistani or Indian?

It is not about being Pakistani or Indian. It is about who you are and what you practise. You see, the problem is, the television and the media will only show bad things.

But the good things which are taking place in all countries of the world are not given publicity. So people think, ‘It’s all bad, everywhere.’

But good missionary work is not given publicity and people do not become aware of such things.

For example, Pakistan. People only know one image of Pakistan: terrorists. People will be surprised to know that the Universal Leader, the Kalki Avatar, is emerging from Pakistan.

People have only seen terrorists from Pakistan; not every single Pakistani is a terrorist and not every single Muslim is a terrorist. There are good people and bad people everywhere, in every religion, in every country and in every nation.

I mean we have Sufism, a branch of Islam, in Pakistan. Sufism is a beautiful practice and there are Sufis all over the world.

In a way similar to Lord Buddha, [Sufis] purify themselves, become attached to God, become Godly, and gain miraculous powers. The love everybody. People of all religions revere, respect and love them. Because they are very close to God, people go to them pray to God; through them, God listens to their prayers.

There was a Muslim Sufi from Sri Lanka by the name of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen. He was born in Sri Lanka and he travelled to the United States of America. He died there and is buried in Philadelphia. Many Americans love and they follow him; they did not convert to Islam because Sufis do not ask you for conversion; they teach you how to love humanity and God. That is the basic principle of Sufism: love.

So, Your Holiness there is no conversion in this, only preaching about love?  

No, it’s not a religion, it’s a spirituality. We are spiritual people. We want Hindus to become good Hindus, Christians to become good Christians. They are all good for except two things: love and spirituality.

The core of their religion is missing from their lives: spirituality. When they learn spirituality, a Hindu will become a good Hindu and a Christian will become a good Christian.

You will become a good Hindu when you are connected to Bhagwan.

When we see a spoilt child, most people will say, ‘They didn’t have a mother to train and teach them; this is why they are spoiled.’

When a child is away from the mother, the child doesn’t get to learn moral or ethical values. In a similar way, you are Hindu, Muslim or Christian but you are not connected to God.

When you are not connected to God, you don’t love God. When you don’t love God how can you love another human being? 

when you are connected to God and learn to love God, then you understand, ‘all creation is created by God, if I don’t love them then God will be unhappy with me.’

So you begin to love everybody. And the same is the principle in Sufism.

Sufism is actually another name given to spirituality. It’s part of Islam; this is why it is called Sufism.

Spirituality is the core of every religion.

Among the Hindus, there are so many Sufis like Sant Kabeer Daas etc. There are so many saints in Christianity. You become a saint with the help of spirituality. In Judaism, Sufism is like Kabbalah: the inner dimension of the religion where you purify your heart, where you remove all the negativity from you heart.

You become a positive person whose heart is filled with love, compassion and tolerance.

[People of] every single religion invited His Divine Eminence Gohar Shahi to their worship places. HDE Gohar Shahi went to mosques and delivered lectures there. He activated their hearts with spirituality. He was invited into Christian churches and Hindu temples.

People of all religions who had happened to listen to HDE Gohar Shahi were inspired by His message.

All these religions that love spirituality, love HDE Gohar Shahi. His message is not about religion; His message is about humanity and love.

I have been coming to Sri Lanka for the past 13 years now. There are thousands of people in Sri Lanka who are inspired by these teachings. There are Hindus, Muslims and Christians but they don’t hate each other.

Now, you said there are thousands who have been inspired with this humanity, this spirituality. Do you visit Sri Lanka every year and do you inform this segment each time? What is the response like?

Yes, almost every year. We have an organisation here, Kalki Avatar Foundation. They organise programmes for me before I come. The response is wonderful because we are not taking anything away from them; we are giving. You know, often gurus come here and before you can even see them, they will ask for 100 000 Rupees. This is their business. But this is not our business – this is our service to humanity. People are fed up of so-called gurus.

Your Holiness, you are in touch with God; so what are the powers that you have? I was told by one of the ministers that you have the power to treat patients with terminal illness. 

I have a methodology and I apply that method. The power will come from God – the God of Hindus, God of Buddha, God of Muslims – to whomsoever he wishes to heal. If God wants to heal them, they are healed. I am not God; I am human being.

Now, out of all the countries that you travel to, which country do you think you have the largest following?

Almost everywhere, because the message is so beautiful and it is the necessity of time.

People are getting tired of religions and hatred.

They look to religions the religions don’t have any answer to the current situation. Only through spirituality can they liberate themselves from these limitations and boundaries of religions and nations.

We are all human beings. My blood is red and your blood is red, we are no different from each other.

You can call yourself a Buddhist, Hindu or Muslim but at the end of the day you have the same God, you are the same people. Why should we hate each other?

You are quite right. Now, Your Holiness, only a limited crowd knows this. How do you want to reach the others? Even I came to know when one of your ministers told me about it; but most of the people don’t know. How are you thinking to give the message to the people?

The message is getting across and it’s a good thing that the media is now helping. However, the problem is only the interested people will contact us. Some people are more into making money. If this interests you, only then you will contact me. There are so many journalists, but not every single journalist is coming to interview me.

In a similar way the message has been spoken about and it has been going across the country for the last 13 years. Almost everybody in Sri Lanka is aware of our activities and what we are doing; however, what happens when you are not interested? Even when something is going on in front of your eyes, you are alien to it because you are not paying attention.

Obviously, I hope you will understand and appreciate that not everybody wants to love.

Some people love to love and share love; and unfortunately some people, by nature, hate to love.

I think everybody has this element of love in them, but some people apply that element of love into their business. Some people love their jobs, like the cricketer, Yassik Malinga. When you apply all your love into one field, you can’t use that love for anything else.

The element of love has been given by God to everybody to a certain degree. But some people use it for their business and some others use it for their profession.

It’s good to love your profession.

In certain ways, it’s good and in certain ways, it is not good. It’s good because if you love your profession, you become highly professional; people admire you and they are inspired by you. But when you love your profession, you don’t have time for anybody else. It happens to so many people. You become blind when you love money; you can do anything for money.

I understand money is a necessity of life; but when you love money, it is dangerous.

I am talking about the element of love being utilised to the extreme. When you empty your heart onto something, then you cannot love anything else.

Have you read the play written by William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet? They were crazy about each other, they were completely cut off from the rest of the world. We have people in our day-to-day lives who love their girlfriends and wives; but their love is not to that extreme. The question is: can they go into that extreme like Romeo and Juliet did? No. Some people are designed to go to that extreme by God and only they can do that.

In regards to people who have extreme love for money, I think this is what is designed from God for them.

We give our message of love to everybody, but not everybody is interested. Some people find hatred more pleasurable. And some people are very happy because they have a loving soul in them. It’s more about who you are inside, about your soul.

Some people enjoy hurting and harming others – and some people cant bear to see such things. It is about the nature. God created man in different natures. Some people are prone to being compassionate, kind and nice to everybody. On the other hand, some others wants to be nice, kind and compassionate to themselves only; they want all the comfort to themselves. Such people can’t see anyone flourish; they become jealous and they will take measures to destroy you.

In this world, there is a mixture of people. This message is for those who want to love and be loved; this message will not change people who indulge in the luxury of hatred. Obviously, there are people who love to hate: Taliban, Al Qaeda and the terrorists.

The truth is the truth. Somebody has to speak out. If you don’t say that, then you are committing a crime against humanity. These terrorists hate to love anybody; they pose as being Muslim but they are not Muslim. God has never said anything that they preach to be Islam. What they are doing is their own conception and perception. They are hateful souls.

What else do you have to say about your mission?

Sri Lanka is the place where the first messenger of God, Adam, was sent by God. This is a very sacred an special place in the eyes of God. This is where humanity originated from. This place is very important; the spiritual revolution is being brought up here. My Lord told me that Jesus Christ has returned – as foretold in Christian and Muslim faiths – and he is present in Sri Lanka somewhere. Sri Lanka is under the blessings of Jesus Christ and Lord Ra Riaz Gohar Shahi.

We had a ruthless war for 30 years. 

Yes. The act of killing and shedding blood has been carried out since the first man came to the world, but now it’s getting better. The most important thing that we should do in Sri Lanka is stop discrimination and love everybody. Love Singhalis, love Tamils, Hindus, Buddhists Muslims. We should all be Sri Lankans we should not be divided into nations. First you should be a Sri Lankan, then a Hindu etc. Your first and foremost identity should be Sri Lankan; this is the key.

It’s very important that you identify yourself as Sri Lankan first; then with the help of spirituality, you learn to respect everybody’s presence and you learn to love everybody. If you do these two things you’re living in paradise. It’s a very simple thing but even then it’s not very simple for people.

Most people in all religions want to love but there are black sheep in every group who don’t let it happen. We have to be cautious about those black sheep. The public wants to love; but then we have politicians. You vote for them because of which they become either  a prime minister or a president but you don’t know what is on their agenda. Are they serving your interest or their own? If the politicians aren’t corrupt and they become sincere, then the nations will flourish. If the politicians are corrupt, the nations will not flourish.

The world has to become a good place, it has been destined. But before it becomes a good place, you have to sort out the loving souls from the hateful ones. This sorting is very important and we are getting closer every day.

Do you think, Your Holiness, that to change the minds of the people can be done easily or very soon?

It’s not about the mind – to have pain for others – it’s about your heart.

We have to change the heart to change the way people think.  

A friend of mine used to have migraines; he used to cry and his eyes would become red. But I never realised how painful a migraine can be until I experienced one myself. When you go through that experience, only then you realise what it is.

Therefore, when people experience love then they will love to love; when they reap the fruits of love and tolerance and peace.

Sometimes peace is established by weapons, but that peace is very temporal.

Eternal peace will come by enlightening the hearts and changing the way people think. The real solution to establishing peace is in spirituality. When you change their hearts, they will stop hating each other and the problem is solved.

If one person is given less rights and the other is given more, this will create a sense of deprivation which will in turn create lot of problems such as jealousy and hatred. There should be equality; everyone should be given equal rights. This is a general understanding – I am not talking about politics. When everybody has the same rights they wont hate each other.

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Younus AlGohar is the Representative of the Awaited One Lord Ra Riaz Gohar Shahi and CEO of Messiah Foundation International. He has been recognised as an Ambassador of Peace and Man of Valour. He is an advocate of divine love and interfaith harmony.
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