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Talk2Me Radio UK Interviews Younus AlGohar on Wahhabism
4th May 2017|ActivitiesInterviewsNews

Talk2Me Radio UK Interviews Younus AlGohar on Wahhabism

Talk2Me Radio UK Interviews Younus AlGohar on Wahhabism

Talk2Me Radio in United Kingdom invited HH Younus AlGohar to speak on Wahhabism. Below is the written transcript of the full interview.

To hear the complete audio of the interview – click here.

Q: Can you explain what is Wahhabism, please?

Wahhabism has been attributed to a form of Islam; however, if you go deeper into the background information of Wahhabism, Wahhabism is a set of extreme, fanatic belief system in which Wahhabis do not recognise any other form of Islam. Especially, they are really against Sufis and Shia Muslims.

What we see today in the world in form of Islamic terrorism is actually Wahhabism.

Q: As I understand it, broadly speaking there are two main sects within Islam: Sunni and Shia – that is the main divide. Like Catholic and Protestant in Christianity. And then there are sub-divides within them. Where does Sufism fit in that divide?

Of course, Islam has been divided into two main sects of Islam which is Sunni and Shiite. Sunni’s are supported by Saudi Arabia and Shitte’s by Iran. Sufism is the form of islam in which people practise spirituality, like Mevlana Rumi and so many other Sufis in Islam who talked about peace, who talked about love and who never hold a grudge against anybody, who are very tolerant, and they love everybody, they love all the religions.They are the ones who are called Sufis.

Q: They’re kind of esoteric?

Yes, true.

Q: What form of Islam were you involved in?

I was born in a Sufi practising family. I practised Sufism and later on, I got tired of religions and I adopted divine love – Sufism. I do not adhere myself to any religion right now.

Q : Having heard some of the Muslim apostates, I heard that leaving Islam is punishable by death. Is that the case? Is that a widely held belief or is it just an extremist belief?

This is very much the thought of the mainstream Muslims. If you leave the religion of Islam, according to the Muslim faith, the punishment is death penalty. That is true.

Q: That is a shock to me. I would certainly not expect that to be the case from a mainstream point of view. If that is where we are at, surely that is something more people should know about. It should be discussed on a mainstream platform, don’t you think?

I have spoken on this subject many times and I can really give a long lecture on this point. But this is what Muslims all over the world understand, that if one leaves the religion of Islam, then he must be killed.

Q: If someone is listening to this conversation who maybe is a Muslim and part of Islam and they want to leave, what is actually the sensible way of going about that without causing problems?

The best thing is to leave the Muslim country where you are, go somewhere else and leave the religion. However if you live in Saudi Arabia or all these Arab countries and you publicly announce that you have left Islam, then you are inviting trouble.

Q: So go quietly, I guess is what we are saying. I want to tackle this word Wahhabism. Some people have a problem with the word, Wahhabism. Don’t they call it Salafist? They have another word for it? Why is it that they have a problem with that word?

Actually, these two different Islamist movements – one comes from Saudi Arabia and the other comes from Egypt. The one that comes from Egypt, Ikhwan ul Muslimeen, they know themselves as Salafis. The Wahhabis come from Saudi Arabia, but they don’t want to be known as Wahhabis. They call themselves Sunni Muslims however they practise the cult of Wahhabism.

Q: So what is the root origin of that word?

Wahhabism comes from Saudi Arabia. There was a guy known as Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab, he was from the central province of Saudi Arabia. He was denounced by his own father for his extremist views, however later on, people started to like his stand on Islam and his extreme views on Islam. This is how it progressed.

Later on, about 100 years ago, when Saudi Arabia was part of the Ottoman Empire, these Wahhabis with the Saudi royal family, formed an alliance and they defeated the governor of the Ottoman Empire. This is how they gained power in Saudi Arabia in the early 1900s. This is when Wahhabism started to make a stronghold for themselves. Then the oil money, which was like a stamp on their progression. Now they’re spending billions of dollars on widespread of Wahhabism all over the world. This doctrine of hatred has now taken place in the hearts of young Muslims all over the world.

Those who practise Wahhabism do not need to be further radicalised because Wahhabism itself is an extreme radicalisation. Those who practise Wahhabism, inside their heart, they are potential terrorists. They can carry out any atrocity, any act of terrorism anywhere in the world. Because this is the principles of Wahhabism. For except themselves, they do not consider anybody else to be true Muslims. Those who are not Wahhabis, they must be killed and all their properties must be forfeited by them.

Q: Famously, the victims of Islamist terrorism tends to be Muslims statistically more than anyone else. If we could wave a magic wand and remove those ideas of Wahhabism and Salafism and be left with moderate Islam. If we could tackle the problem of Wahhabism/Salafism islam, would we still have a so-called clash of civilisations on our hands? Would we still have a problem in this country?

The civilisation clash is not as severe as the dangers which is caused by Wahhabis. If we can take care of the Salafists and Wahhabis in the UK, we would be saving a lot of lives. We would be saving a lot of peace for ourselves. We have to take care of these Salafists and Wahhabis. I think this is the most dangerous thing. Not just in the UK of GB, but all over the world. These Salafis and Wahhabis must be taken care.

Q: How do you propose to do that? How can people be taken care of who have beliefs with which we disagree?

We have been working on this campaign: Ban Wahhabism. We have carried out this campaign in India, USA and UK as well. Somehow or other, our petition was removed from change.org in India and also USA. People are becoming more and more aware. We have to keep raising awareness of the potential danger of Wahhabism. One day people will come to know what is the cause of this international terrorism.

Q: Let’s hope this conversation is a beginning to that process here in the minds of people listening in the UK.

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ThatChannel.com Interviews Younus AlGohar Part 2
3rd May 2017|ArticlesInterviewsVideos

ThatChannel.com Interviews Younus AlGohar Part 2

The second part of ThatChannel.com’s Liquid Lunch programme with Younus AlGohar.

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Hugh: So, we are going to do a second interview now and change the topics up a little bit. We are going to be talking about society, unification and peace. The last interview was about some of the problem so we’re gonna hopefully get to some of the solutions in this conversation.

Hildegard: Yes, and we seem to have the perfect magazine at hand called ‘Messiah Herald: Become the Master of Your Own Being’ and maybe I was jumping the gun a little bit half an hour ago but that, I think, really, is the hot topic today. Steve, talk to us about the magazine and the purpose behind it.  

Steve: So, this is a monthly magazine that we issue and it is actually being spread all over the world now. And the beauty of it is because His Holiness Gohar Shahi has made spirituality accessible to everybody in this world. We see the increase in the material world, upgrades in technologies, this is an upgrade in spirituality. It makes it accessible to everybody. There is even a step in this month’s one where people can just download this from MessiahHerald.com or get it from the guise here or come to any one of our places and get this.

Page 12 has an actual step-by-step guide, how you can reawaken your heart. It is as simple as that. A 3 step guide that anybody can do. Doesn’t matter what religion or what faith you are. We have seen in the history that people have had to go away on missions, they have had to go sit around gurus, it is just not acceptable now. It is not possible that people can do this. All I heard of spirituality before is like the George Harrison – [inaudible] – the Beatles; you’ve got money, you’ve got time, you can go off and go to these retreats. It’s just not possible these days. So, His Holiness has beautifully made it accessible for all. I thoroughly recommend this magazine to all the viewers. As you said, it mentions about conquering yourself, self-awareness, knowing yourself to know God.

Hugh: I noticed on the cover of that one it says ‘Is the Promised Messiah Already Here?’

YAG: That is the question.

Hugh: What’s the answer?

YAG: Let’s find out.

Hildegard: Before we go there, if I just may. I understand you have a lot of workshops and you give lectures online. Here on this book it actually says ‘broadcast live, everyday at 10PM UK time’, tell me a little bit about how that works.

Steve: Yeah, 10PM UK time, His Holiness gives us that slot just teaching about love and spirituality. As you saw on Saturday, very up-to-date information, current news, current situations. And He thoroughly welcomes anybody to ask any questions. They can log on and ask questions and they will always be answered.

Hildegard: So, individuals can type into the chat and say ‘here, this is my issue, I would like your opinion’?

Steve: Certainly can and they do everyday.

Hildegard: This is like, really hands on.

Steve: This is what we need. This is a worldwide – we want everybody in the world to know about it so the internet is the perfect vehicle [for it].

Hildegard: Okay, so let’s talk a little bit about the coming of the Messiah. Because many religions have claimed this for thousands of years and they are always those who say nothing happens, or ‘2012 the world will end’, obviously nothing happened. [Inaudible] in the invisible world lots have happened. So, His Holiness, what is your take on the coming of the Messiah?

YAG: Messiah is related to the Jewish religion. It is the Messianic thought; there will be a Messiah. There is a lot of conflict on the word ‘Messiah’ because Christians think Jesus is Messiah and people from Judaism think there is another Messiah. And there was a problem when Jesus was arrested by the Romans, the Jewish scholars complained that Jesus calls himself Messiah, ask him who is he?

So, there is a concept of a Messianic figure in almost every religion. Hindus have this belief that there will a Messiah, a type of saviour, then Muslims have the same belief that there will be a saviour, according to their faith. And then, we have the Sikh community, they also have the same concept. So, this concept of an End Time personality, who, according to every religion will strengthen the religions. If it is a Hindu Messiah he will strengthen the Hindu religion and the followers of Hinduism. And Jewish concept tells us that the Jewish Messiah will acquire the Promised Land for them and strengthen the Jewish community. The Muslims also have the same concept of the End Times saviour.

Hugh: I am wondering, in a sense, if you have a concept of a Messiah – even if it is an alien Messiah, Hildegard –

Hildegard: That’s another discussion altogether.

Hugh: I think it’s the same discussion in respect that if we are expecting a Messiah to come and save us from our plight then, in a sense, we are putting our faith in an external factor versus taking responsibility ourselves for the situation we find ourselves in and doing something about it.

YAG: Actually, I got your point but the thing is it is not people who have concocted this concept of Messiah. If we had made up this story that we need somebody from extra-terrestrial; space, we are in that case putting our faith to external sources. But it is the thought which is coming from religions. Nobody has made up the thought, it is coming from religions. People who believe in religions they have this concept. People who are secular, do not believe in any religions, they are not waiting for any Messiah. So, it is a religious concept.

Hildegard: However, you are non-religious? The Messiah Foundation embraces all religions, correct? So, you are not looking for followers, you are non-religious. So, some people say, ‘Well, they are just preaching another Messiah; with all due respect we don’t need that’. We need somebody that helps us how to do our lives better.

YAG: That’s what we are doing.

Hildegard: So, that is in essence the mission. Where does the Messiah fit in? Are you helping me find the Messiah within myself, is the next question?

YAG: Oh my gosh, if somebody is not feeling well and I go there and give them medicine, and I heal them and everything, but they tell me, ‘Don’t talk about the doctor’, alright let’s not talk about the doctor. But, do you know what does a doctor do? That’s exactly what I am doing: giving you medicine, telling you your ailments, giving you  medicine and healing you. So, the job of the Messiah is to spread love, unify the entire human race. And this exactly what we need to do.

Okay, let’s forget about the Messiah, let’s do the job if you want to put it that way. Spreading love.

Hildegard: So, correct me if I am wrong, the Messiah is just giving us a whole new boost of love so it is easier for the individual to transcend – we spoke about hate and anger before, I don’t want to go there anymore – but that is what the Messiah does?

YAG: To be honest with you ‘Messiah’ is just a title. It is the Divine Energy which is coming in the guise of the Messiah. You can say the Divine Manifestation. The manifestation or that Super Man behind the clouds. If he doesn’t want to show us His face, he has taken a guise of somebody called Messiah. But we shouldn’t be concerned about the personality, we should be concerned about our own interest. And our interest is to become enlightened and powerful and to have peace in our heart and all the glory of our persona. That’s all.

Hildegard: So, let’s talk about the personal transformation in those who – I understand you have travelled extensively around the world, you go to conferences, do many interviews, you have your online workshops and discussions. What are some of the experience people have shared who had been activated, had their hearts opened to love?

YAG: What I feel every time I visit a country, some of these people have no knowledge about their [respective] field, and some people, the knowledge they have is dangerous. So, lack of knowledge. They are not properly informed. The discerning knowledge which can put their mind right, the knowledge which can fix their heart, that knowledge is lacking in every field. We are helping people to have the knowledge with which they can enlighten themselves and find who they really are. We are not concerned about Messiah, forget about Messiah. If Messiah comes and he doesn’t benefit me, I am not waiting for such a Messiah. If Messiah comes and he doesn’t benefit my soul, if he doesn’t improve the quality of my life, I shouldn’t be waiting for such a Messiah.

If Messiah just comes for his own personal interest, let him come. I am not bothered. I am only bothered about my personal quest which is exploring myself. Making the quality of my life better and if this is done from any angle, from any source, from any religion or any secular school of thought, or from any person then that person is very close to my heart. Even if that person is not Messiah. We are concerned about the philosophy, the ideology of love and peace not the person who may be dispensing the ideology of love and peace.

Hildegard: Well, as it appears we have been living in the ideology where we are separate from one another and focus on our separateness, rather than our togetherness, our unity, we are one organism.

YAG: It’s time now that we travel from being separate to togetherness. It is time now for unification. Because together we are powerful, divided we are estranged.

Hildegard: I would like to use the analogy of a computer network. The computer network out there is not really helpful to me unless my hard drive finds a way to connect to it, right? So, can you give us a specific example of what you are teaching? Your online courses or when you are doing your talks and travels. What are some of the steps our audience could practise? Like we talk about seeing a doctor, you want to have some idea of what he can do: change your diet, drink more water, whatever the doctor may recommend. Do you have any recommendations?

YAG: Well, what I do is multicultural and multidimensional. There are many problems that I am dealing with at a time. For example, when I speak everyday at 10PM UK time, I am live on Facebook, Periscope and YouTube. So, what happens is, people from all over the world they ask me questions on YouTube Live Chat and I answer these questions. Some of the questions are about their life, some of those questions are about the authenticity of the religions and they ask me which religion is better. They ask me about their religion, what they are doing as a religious person if it’s okay. So, I give them my understanding and references from their books and I tell them whether or not they are right or wrong.

So, in a way I am dealing with different sorts of cases. The nature of these cases is different, everybody is coming from a perspective of life and different religions. But I am happy when their questions are answered and I see a ray of hope on their faces, it satisfies me and I tell myself that I am really making a contribution towards forming a better society in this world.

Hildegard: You mentioned dimensions. What is your take on dimensions? For there are those who say they simultaneously exist on many different dimensional world at once. People who have visions or see elves or tree-creatures or different life forms, or aliens. What is your take on what are dimensions? Because we are so, as you mentioned earlier, stuck on the third dimension. This is what it is all about and some people say no, after a near-death experience we know that consciousness moves on, I don’t really die, the body may die but like if I take off my grey sweater, I continue living.

YAG: You are right. There is no such thing as fuller death. This is a journey. We are here for a specific reason and the body that we are contained in, if you call this death when the body perishes, we can call it death but then again this body is not real you. The real you is your spirit and that spirit does not know death. We are constantly travelling and going through evolution: spiritual evolution, geographical evolution and celestial evolution. And like the dimension that you were talking about. We have 7 souls inside our body and the dimension that you will be more focused on depends on what soul are you aligned with concurrently.

If you are aligned with the soul which rests on the right side of our bosom, it will take us to a different realm. Maybe somebody else is aligned with another soul so his or her dimension will be totally different.

After you have explored all your realities and you have aligned with all your souls, and you have been to all the celestial realms, then comes You: a fuller, dimensional person who knows everything. And then, that person will come to the divine dimension, which is the dimension of God.

Hildegard: So, indeed, there is hope. The worst that can happen people lose their body, terrorism or no terrorism, and we can work on the true self by becoming spiritually more conscious and therefore we can have whatever happens outside ripple, like water off a duck’s back.

YAG: But if you lose your body before your time you will be deprived of obtaining this spiritual enlightenment in the lifetime you are given to [obtain it]. If you die before your time then whatever you were supposed to obtain in this world in that frame of time, you won’t obtain it. So, we must not lose our life, we must not just throw our life away to any reason.

Hildegard: And that is unfortunately very much the case today. When you hear of young people committing suicide, en masse almost, we have such tragic stories here and I know they exist in other places as well. What do you attribute that to? And I know you work with young people, please elaborate a little bit.

YAG: They have many, many different issues. Sometimes, our desires, for example, are good. For example, I don’t have a car and I want to buy a car, this is a desire but if I do buy a car it will improve my life. Okay, that’s good. Let him go have a car. Now, if what you desire is not good for you and it is really dangerous for you then you are in pursuit of that desire, somebody who is honest with you should stop you from there. Right? So, we have many different desires and when the desires are not fulfilled they commit suicide. So, there are different reasons for suicide.

Hildegard: Do you think the religions were designed to educate us on a spiritual path and have they done a good job of it? What’s you opinion on it?

YAG: Religion were designed to help people, but only those who were in the Primordial Time and chose to have a pure life and those who wanted the luxuries of the world, religions are not for them. Number 2- There is not one religion, which was designed by God, to suit everybody in the world. All these religions were designed to cater for the needs of one particular group of people.

For example, Islam was created for the spiritual needs of the people who inhabited the Arabian Peninsula. This is why strict religious laws were implemented; if you are [caught] stealing they chop your hands off. But if you do the same in USA or Canada or UK, this is barbaric. But for them, because of their temperament – people have different temperaments everywhere. So, not even one religion is universal, they are regional.

Hugh: But here we are now and we still have those religions and now with the world getting smaller and people are moving all over the world; different cultures living side-by-side with each other, you know, these religions are beginning to rub up against each other –

YAG: That’s why these religions are creating problems now.

Hugh: Yeah, exactly. So, now to get from here though, because many people feel very strongly about their religions. And you know sometimes I think there is nothing harder than a worldview for people to change. People are so invested at the way they look at the world, right? So, for somebody to shatter that for them it’s very unsettling. That’s what I think causes people to get into a terrorist mindset or to become radicalised. So, here we are in this world. We are trying to get into unification. Certainly, we are trying to get to a place where people can live peacefully alongside one another. How do we do that? How do we overcome this religious mindset that some people have?

YAG: These people who practise religion they practise it very strictly, they become shortsighted. They are like the frog of the well; they do not know what is outside the well. You cannot educate them. Every single person who practises a religion becomes intolerant. That person thinks only he or she is right people of other religions are wrong. There is no time for religion. You cannot change them.

Hugh: One of the things that disturbs me is that the terrorist incidents in Europe where people are starting to become less tolerant – this is my concern, I hope I am wrong actually – but I have seen it here in Toronto too where everybody has become a little bit radicalised. People are saying, you know, we can’t have Muslims in the country. There are actually some people saying that. And not willing to engage in a debate because they feel that engaging in a debate would be fruitless. So, my concern is that instead of people becoming more tolerant or more open to working alongside one another as these incidents happen the people of all cultures, of all backgrounds, start to become isolationists in their thinking; less willing to even think about having a conversation.

YAG: I mean, what is happening right now and the tolerance you are talking about where people are beginning to have less tolerance, I think that is pretty much natural. If I live in my house alone with my children and then we have visitors and they stay there for 2-3 months. One day I will feel that my privacy is being invaded and I will start to feel frustrated. Actually, this is what is happening now in Canada. So many refugees are now coming and you feel that your values and freedom is being put on the stake and your way of life is now being jeopardised, and this integration and a lot of foreigners who are naive to this culture and your religious or secular values are pouring into your country. Perhaps, this is fear which is coming up as intolerance. The government should do something about it. They should only take as many refugees as your nation –

Hugh: I agree, but I don’t know if we can trust the governments to do the right thing. As I said, you know, if we think that the problem is even higher. And sometimes my suspicions, frankly, are that people at the highest levels are really trying to undermine the wellbeing of people, of families, of nations because – I don’t know what the real reason is – they thrive on chaos or misery or whatever it is.

YAG: [Laughs] That’s true. They are not concerned about right or wrong. They are just working on their political agenda. Whatever makes their opposition in politics stronger they will do that. I don’t think they are concerned about right or wrong.

Hugh: So, how do we get to unification from here –

YAG: Total unification is not possible. Unification is only possible among those people who are like minded. Do you understand?

Hildegard: That was going to be my question because you mentioned as we learn spiritually about all of the souls that are inside of us, we have to be willing to look at that. So, who is willing, is it in the makeup of the unique soul the human beings carry? Some of them are already predestined to “wake up”, and other those who are just waking up because they chose not to this lifetime around?

YAG: Not all the souls have this potential of finding love and peace. Not all the souls are equal in nature. Not all the souls are similar in nature. Only the souls which are similar in nature to each other will look for unification. Some people or I should rather say some of the souls are designed to look similar and familiar to each other and some others are totally opposite in nature. Those who are prone to create a chaos and promote hatred they will not understand any other language. They will only understand how to create more hatred and more chaos. So, you cannot talk about unification, love and peace among those people. They are designed to promote hatred.

Hugh: Then what do you do?  

YAG: You cannot do anything!

Hugh: Because we are living in the same world as those people, right? Some would argue those are the terrorists, the bad guys, those are the people that maybe the good guys need to go to war with.

YAG: No bad guy will turn into a good guy, no matter what you do.

Hugh: So, what do we do with them?

YAG: We have to take precautions and protections. I am being realistic. I am not telling you stories to make anybody happy. I am telling you something which is very close to reality. Not everybody will love and not everybody will love the idea of promoting love and peace. There are people who are designed to promote hatred and you can never change them.

Hildegard: So, the people who became radicalised, like Steve was saying earlier –

YAG: They were different in nature.

Hildegard: So, their soul is different than somebody who has a desire to live in peace and harmony?

YAG: No soul on earth who has the potential of living with love and peace will or can be radicalised because their nature will not allow it. Only those are at the stake of being radicalised, who, in their nature are already radicalised by God. So, they have been divinely radicalised.

Hildegard: Wow! You are opening a whole new kind of –

YAG: The only person you can blame, and I am sorry to say that, but we are just puppets. The boss is responsible for everything.

Hildegard: However, we are not to – [inaudible] – responsibility then because human beings have known to make transformations. Maybe people haven’t been mass-murderers and haven’t been radicalised yet there are most certainly things that I have done that I am not proud of and then later on I felt better. I think that is human nature, right?

YAG: I think mass-murderers and these terrorists are all the same but they are doing it for a different cause. That’s all I understand.

Hildegard: Your foundation draws those who have a soul that is resonating with unification to begin with or else they wouldn’t even be drawn –

YAG: We are trying to reach everybody but the problem is those who, in nature, are already radicalised, when they ask a question they are already attacking on us; they are swearing at us, to them we are infidels. [They say] ‘What is love? There is no such thing as love in Islam.’ Alright.

Messiah Foundation International loves everybody without prejudice, without reservation of the colour of your skin. We love everybody. We are practically trying to raise awareness of practical love, spirituality, enlightenment. We love everybody and we would love to draw attention of people who do not love to love. We are trying and we know there are only certain people who are prone to love will be drawn to love. Not everybody will be drawn to love. We are striving, [I don’t know] whether or not we are thriving but we are striving.

Hugh: And it’s an ongoing project. So, people can go to the website, of course, and listen to the daily message, daily broadcast. And people can get the information on the website which is www.goharshahi.us. So, thank you everybody for tuning in.

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ThatChannel.com Interviews Younus AlGohar Part 1
2nd May 2017|ArticlesInterviewsVideos

ThatChannel.com Interviews Younus AlGohar Part 1

Younus AlGohar on ThatChannel.com’s Liquid Lunch programme speaks to Hugh Reilly and Hildegard Gmeiner about the main cause of terrorism: Wahhabism, along with Steve Bell, President of MFI UK and Mir Liaquat Ali, Chairperson of MFI.

 

Read the transcript below

 

Hugh: The world has changed a little bit since the last time we were here in Toronto. And so, your Holiness, how do you want to open this conversation? What new information do we need to start thinking about today?

 

YAG: The world is changing and when we say the world is changing it simply means the people are changing and people are changing in a way that they are going with the flow. They need to understand where they are going, what they are doing and what is good for them, and what is good for society. And that is something that we are going to discuss today. With this continuous change that is coming up, what is it that we must do in order to have a good society, a better peaceful world?

 

Hugh: I’m just trying to put my finger on what some of the things are that have changed since the last time we were here and of course, we’ve got what’s new in our awareness last time is, in Europe, I guess what we call the refugee crises. Where we’ve got people who are just moving into Europe, whether they’re walking there from the Middle East, whether they are crossing the Mediterranean from Africa. We don’t really feel that here in Canada because we are an ocean away, but some of what I’m perceiving is a little bit of a heightening of racial tension or tension between the migrants and the people who are already in Europe. And you’re in the UK, so you’ve got perhaps even a different experience than mainline Europe, but what are your comments on all that?

 

YAG: Actually, my views are a little different on this point because we have several things in mind at the same time. Number 1,  humanitarian efforts to give refuge to people who have been homeless and they have been compelled to leave their country under different circumstances. The feeling that we should allow refugees to come and settle in our countries, that is one point, it’s good, but then on the other hand, the terrorists who might be coming among all those refugees that is also something that we must be careful about. So, my views are a little different and I am a bit conservative at this point. If I was a politician in the UK, I would be a little tough on refugee policy. This is my understanding. I would be a little tough, I wouldn’t just allow any amount of refugees to pour into my country.

 

Hugh: That’s a good point. In fact,  this is something that I’ve learned from you in the last couple of weeks that we spend a little bit of time together is that there is that you call the Wahhabi from Saudi Arabia, that are fomenting terrorism upon certain people who are open to it. And this is one thing I don’t think in Canada, at least I wasn’t aware of it, and if it’s true, it’s something we need to be mindful of. Because, Canada is very welcoming to new people from other parts of the world. But if, some of those people coming in have malicious intent, then we need to be aware of that, and that’s what you are saying, that some of these people many have malicious intent, and of course we don’t wanna have terrorism. So, if there is that kind of malicious intent then we do need to know about it. And we need to be smart about our immigration and our refugee policies.

 

Hildegard: What I find interesting is, reading the European languages, the newspapers and the official media as well and what’s on the internet these days. I am wondering what is your intake on the energies on this planet that stir the pot of unrest globally, intentionally to prevent the individuals as well as the collective to access their heart and soul? Just going back to what we learnt on Saturday, this wonderful event that you were at. I understand you are the ambassador of peace, you have been giving lectures at the United Nations, I forgot what the title was but they honoured you with bringing people together, politically, economically, on all levels. Many voices in Europe that I had the privilege of speaking to, they said, ‘Well hey, the European Union goes and destroys the habitat for people in Africa, makes it impossible for them to make a living, and then we treat them badly.’ What is your insight on the undercurrent, because the one thing is, we have refugees, and now let’s find a scapegoat and unfortunately this is now the Muslim religion, which I think is totally unfair. Because I don’t even believe the people who commit these crimes are not necessarily your average kind of citizen regardless of what religion. What is your insight, if you care to talk about this? Maybe this is not something you want to share but what do you say? Because people really want to know.

 

YAG: A majority of people who are coming from affected countries as refugees are people in need.

 

But the problem is, in the guise of those people, there are some individuals who are already radicalised, who follow the Wahhabi mindset and who have this intention of pouring into these civilised countries and creating a chaos.

 

And not just make it difficult for these countries to accept refugees but also make it difficult for the refugees to find a shelter anywhere else in the world. So, there are some grey areas, where no matter how tight your security or scrutiny may be you can’t just help.

 

Hugh: Like one of the things, I heard Trump say, that kind of made me – this is before he bombed Syria, mind you – that made me think maybe this was on the right track is that he was talking about, creating the situation, I think you mentioned Hildegard, in countries like Syria and of course in Africa, where parts of the world where there is a big incentive for people to get out of there and go to the Europe or go to the West. Lets, as a global project, let’s work on making those places, decent places to be so that there is no incentive to leave.Like, if we made Syria peaceful, prosperous, and liveable. And if we made Africa, peaceful, prosperous and liveable then maybe Europeans would wanna go there.

 

YAG: That’s a wonderful idea I think. Of course people are fleeing from these countries is because they are in trouble. They are desperate to leave. They are seeking shelter, protecting their lives. If these areas become peaceful and the conditions become favourable, I don’t think people would want to go anywhere else, they would want to live there in those countries.

 

Hugh: Yeah, because that’s their home, that’s their family, their friends.

 

YAG: That’s a wonderful idea.

 

Hildegard: So the question is, A) who made these conditions unfavourable? Because it’s obvious to many people that I get to talk to on a daily basis, that is a selected group that has financial interest, in creating trauma, challenges, even the people in North America, Toronto, across Canada, as well as in US, the average citizen is complaining that they can’t make a living. House prices are skyrocketing, especially here. Living wage doesn’t really exist for a lot of people anymore. It’s absolutely necessary now that people have multiple jobs even in Canada, it wasn’t unheard of. So it appears that there is some sort of energy that wants the masses to be stuck in fear. So can we talk about, fear versus love and what are the -[inaudible]- there? Hopefully that gives people some hope.

 

YAG: It’s a cocktail of intentions, cocktail of different political agendas, international political agendas. People have their invested, political and financial interest. It’s not an individual’s game, it’s a vast field. We, as a member of the common public can only talk, it’s up to the people in the power to make the right decisions and go in the right direction. For example, what he was saying about Donald Trump’s statement that of making Syria and some of the African countries more peaceful and the conditions become favourable, I think that’s a wonderful idea, and if it’s coming from Donald Trump, God is being merciful.

 

Hugh: Easier said than done though right? To take Africa and make it peaceful and prosperous, or Syria, which is a very difficult situation.

 

Mir L Ali: It’s a -[inaudible]- like His Holiness Younus AlGohar put it, a cocktail of humungous problems over there. But then, at the same time, some things didn’t change. Meaning the Wahhabi mentality, you know, those who created this problem their interests remain still the same. But coming to Toronto, it seems like we are coming home, away from all those problems. But then, hopefully things do improve somewhat.

 

Hildegard: So, what would you suggest the individual can do because it can be very easy to get emotionally caught up in all of this propaganda, in fear-mongering, people need to get up in the morning, feed their kids, do what they need to do to survive. What can an individual do to have a more upbeat outlook, in spite of all that is going on.

 

Mir L Ali: Here in the West, in United States and particularly in Toronto, Canada, things are a little different. Whereas, where there is this crisis, the problem in the Middle East, people are suffering. And I like this Prime Minister of Canada, who said, ‘If everybody else is rejecting you, come over here.’ That is something different. Whereas the asylum seekers are suffering for a long time. And they would rather not go anywhere, stay at their place but things are so tough – but then, we have to watch out for those elements which would cause problems here too.

 

Hildegard: You have been involved in the Messiah Foundation International for a very long time and I am wondering if you could tell us what inspired you to do so because you had a unique, personal experience too, didn’t you?

 

Mir L Ali: The inspiration is His Divine Eminence Gohar Shahi and then His Holiness Younus AlGohar. His Divine Eminence left it open in the world, meaning, there is still hope. There is nothing to despair. The sun will rise in the West, it is going to happen. There is a chance for people to understand the methodology, the practical side of it, how you are going to achieve that elusive common platform for everybody which is love. And His Divine Eminence said, ‘Love is contained in the heart.’ Just like water is contained in a glass, so that substance of love is yet to be generated so that the humanity rises above and beyond the religion and those rituals which are creating more differences than the peace of mind.

 

Hildegard: Would you care to speak a little bit about the ritual to put the heart to a state of peace?

 

Steve: People are becoming manipulated, they are finding these people that are from a lonely background, they are switching them, they are brainwashing them and they are teaching them to hate, and to kill. But, on the good hand, there is hope. It’s about unification. We have to be globally unified, and the common goal is love, which is what His Holiness Younus AlGohar is teaching. Once you have that love in your heart, you will not want to hate, you will not want to kill. And the methodology of doing that, as you asked, the place of love is the heart. We must reawaken the souls of the heart, we must free the heart.

 

As His Holiness Younus AlGohar spoke extensively on Saturday, the heart must be free to love. Cleared of everything else, cleared of hatred. It’s about connecting to God and this is what attracted me on this line. Especially Messiah Foundation, it doesn’t matter what religion you come from, doesn’t matter if you don’t follow any religion, this is about connecting to God through your heart and reawakening your souls. This is what the beautiful message is, and unification will only come once we have that common bond of love which is what we are doing. You spoke about society, society starts with a single person, doesn’t it?

 

Hildegard: Do you think there is other groups, not just Wahhabi, but can it be that there are people all over the world who are socially and economically disenfranchised or disadvantaged and the pot is now boiling over and these are the ones that then will go and look to see what can I do to relieve my personal frustration? Or is it one particular sect that is at risk to be radicalised?

 

YAG: Well, the world has always been subject to a great amount of injustice, all over the world. And due to this reason, there has been bloodshed, there have been incidents of hatred. However, this organised butchery of mankind was never witnessed as a result of any injustice, done into any country.

 

This international wave of terrorism is coming from the Wahhabi cult of death.

 

And then, small incidents in different countries are to be known as hate crimes and it could have been a result of gross injustice or justice done against any individual. There could have been many reasons for the uprise in hate crimes. However, this global terrorism, it is not due to injustice. It is due to hunger of power, becoming superpower.

 

For example, USA and Russia are both in a race to become superpower. USA is currently the superpower, but Russia is not sitting quietly. Constantly struggling to get the title back. In a similar way, Saudi Arabia, very discreetly, is in the race now. America and other countries are exporting ammunitions and arms, and Saudi Arabia is exporting terrorism. They want to put their flag of ‘La Ilaha llla Allah’ on the White House. They want to put their black flag on the Big Ben, Parliament Houses in London. Everywhere. They want to rule the world, they are going after the End Times predictions that the Muslim leader will rule the entire world. And they think they are true Muslims, so they should be ruling the world.

 

I am telling you this is the End Times things that they are trying to translate into practicality. This is all Wahhabi school of thought, intolerance or not having the ability to co exist in a society with others. This is all coming from the Wahhabi mindset. I don’t totally rule out the possibility of having hate crimes based on injustice done on different society and different groups of people.

 

However, this international wave of terrorism is not result of any injustice. It is all due to the fact that this Muslim cult of Wahhabi mindset, they want to rule the world. They want international global caliphate, they want their caliph to be a global leader.

 

Hugh: I just wanna say, because I find it curious that in 911, for example, the only people that were allowed to travel and fly from the United States were Saudi Arabians.

 

YAG: And the family members of Osama Bin Laden.

 

Hugh: Yeah, a little curious. When he was being fingered for the cause of the 911 disasters. Sometimes I think that there might even be something at an higher level that maybe some of the people in the West at the highest level, perhaps Saudi Arabians and perhaps other people in the world are really making the effort to destabilise everything, and make life miserable for normal decent people all over the world. Some of the crimes, in the US and some in the UK, these are not even real terrorist acts, these are people who may have been subject to some kind of mind control, and it’s part of larger operation to destabilise, to pick people against one and another. Do you have any thoughts about that? Maybe it’s a bigger problem than even Wahhabism and pointing the finger at Saudi Arabia.

 

YAG: I have a friend in England and his name is Steve Reed. He is a member of parliament and sometimes he comes to my restaurant for a political gathering. And I was talking to him and I asked him, ‘How do you see this terrorism and what do you think the government should do to stop it?’ What he said to me, I take it as an understanding of British politics. He said, ‘This is all about geopolitics.’ And Saudi Arabia is the main sponsor, the main exporter of terrorism. Now, the problem is – there was a problem in Iraq, the West went after Saddam Hussein, and he was finished, and then they thought there was problem in Libya they went after Muammar Gaddafi.

 

Now, there is a problem for everybody in this world: Saudi Arabia. If NATO and all the Western allied forces take care of the Saudi Royal family who is main sponsor. It’s not the Saudi public, all the oil, all the oil money goes into the pockets of these shayukh of the Royal family. A common Saudi citizen is even deprived of basic necessities of life. It’s just the royal family of that country who has all the wealth of that county in their possession. And they are doing this for whatever reason and the reason is pretty obvious. Now the problem is, the world leaders and so reluctant to take any decisive step, this is because they are the main exporter of oil, and everybody has their vested interest. I do not know how they are going to solve this but the problem is Saudi Arabia and the royal family. If they are taken care of then we are at peace.

 

Hugh: Now you have mentioned the End Times prophecy, the end times prophecies in the Islamic faith and there’s also end times prophecies in the Christian faith and probably others faiths. Are these the end times?

 

YAG: End Times? Well, who knows? But we can see some of the clouds telling us stories, like ‘We might rain maybe today or tomorrow’, and End Times are not pretty far.

 

Hugh: And maybe thats a big lesson we can all learn, we don’t really know for sure if these are the End Times or not, we have our lives to live, we have our decisions we can make today

 

YAG: Yeah, but science has solid answers to this question. Science tells us that we are using up the resources, and the climate change and the icebergs melting in the North Pole. And the ultimate source of hydrogen, the Sun, is using up its energies and the UV rays are becoming even worse than before. The UV rays here in Canada is 7 as compared to the UK where there is only 1.

 

So, we are using up the universal resources, which can indicate the fact that, yeah, the End Times are not pretty far.

 

Hildegard: Master Paul Acuna from the Universal Brotherhood mentioned his interpretation was that End times could very well be shifted in conscientization so that humanity really threw the devastation we have created, we are actually needing these challenges to become conscious. What is your take on that His Holiness?

 

YAG: Master Paul is a wonderful man and a wonderful master, he must have a very deep insight into it, but I haven’t actually spent time on exploring this point so I am not in a position to comment.

 

Hildegard: Yeah so some people, when we look at our personal life, when we run against the wall once, we get a little boil in the front head and then we make a different choice and find a more smoother path. So, if this is true for the individual, it’s one of many theories out there maybe that is all in divine order. However, I would like to, if I may one last question regarding putting our heart at ease, can you leave us with a message now towards the end of the first segment that leaves our viewers with a little bit more hope and encouragement. What can they do to keep the emotional waters calm and focus on what they have to do without having a panic attack about what’s going on geopolitically?

 

YAG: First I would like to tell you that End Times, there is a collective End Times and the individuals end times, we should be more concerned about our end times. Everybody has a different end time. The moment you die, this is your end time. So, we shouldn’t wait, we shouldn’t say, ‘Oh the end times are far.’ That’s the collective End Times when the entire world will perish. Let’s talk about our individuality. When will I die? I can die anytime, anywhere. I am not sure whether I will live for another 10 or 20 years, the world has changed. Maybe I am walking outside the street and I am run over by a bus, or a lorry. So I should always be prepared and I should do what it takes to become a more spiritually energetic person and more enlightened. We shouldn’t wait, we should just start, purifying ourselves enlightening ourselves.

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What Does Islam Have To Do With Terrorism?
26th July 2016|InterviewsVideos

What Does Islam Have To Do With Terrorism?

We are in the 15th century according to the Islamic calendar. Predictions made by the Prophet Mohammad about the future is limited to events which were to take place up until the 14th century. People are trying to see the future through the eyes of the predictions of Prophet Mohammad in the 15th century. Tell me: how will they come to know of what might happen in the future when there are no predictions made by the Prophet Mohammad in regards to the 15th century? It is very interesting to see that Imam Mehdi has manifested himself in the 15th century.

It is so sad to know that hatred and bloodshed is all that we see coming from religions, especially from the followers of Islam.

It would be very unwise to say that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, because unfortunately somehow or other, terrorism has flavours of Islam. This is not because Islam promotes hatred or violence.

You may be puzzled because of this statement made by me just now that you cannot deny the fact that Islam has something to do with the ongoing terrorist wave. However at the same time, I am maintaining to say that Islam cannot be fully blamed for what it has now been modified into.

Those who still practise Islam and those who still are of the opinion that Islam does not promote violence, I would like to tell them that Islam would have remained as a religion of peace had Islam been constantly aligned with Sufi practice, spiritual knowledge.

It is the spiritual knowledge within Islam that sustains sanity and peace among Muslims and other nations.

People need to understand the fact that the spiritual faculties in human beings are not controlled by the external aspect of the religion. Whether you love or you hate, you forgive or you hold a grudge, you are happy for your friends and other people being opulent or you become jealous; whether you become generous or you become stingy, these things have nothing to do with religious practice. They’re related to the inner faculties of human beings. These inner faults are not controlled by the outer aspect of the religion.

The different souls and spirits that a human body has in it have the ability and potential to manifest divine attributes, positive attitude, compassion, love and generosity. They have the ability to feel pain that other people are going through.

This happens when, with the help of spirituality, you succeed to enlighten your souls which are dormant at the time. These souls are spiritually activated, nurtured by the divine energy and trained by the spiritual master. If these souls inside your body are not nurtured, trained and enlightened, believe you me, it will not make any difference what religion you practise. Even with vigorous practice of any religion, you will remain to be a mark of humiliation upon humanity.

It is so unfortunate that people who are considered to be the leaders of different religious nations, their study of the religion is not very honest or profound. A very superficial approach is seen being taken by most of these religious leaders. Most of these religious leaders today may be aware partially of the truth; still, they are inspired by their inside evil. They ignore the true word of God. They manipulate the divine text in whichever direction their inner devil (Nafs) leads them to.

The Quran is not an easy book. Understanding of the Quran does not come from any sort of intelligence the you have in your mind, in your brain. Rather, it is compulsory that to understand the Quran, you need the wisdom and true intelligence filtered into your heart by God himself.

If your heart has not been trained by God to understand the Quran, the Quran has a very high [possibility] of misleading you.

The Quran is a very sharp book and no human being on Earth, with his own calibre, ability and wisdom, can understand the Quran. You need God’s help. God’s help is delivered to the hearts which have been enlightened.

If your heart is not enlightened, do not anticipate that God’s help will come. God’s help will only come to an enlightened heart.

This is the problem today. People have gone over the Quran maybe more than 1000 times in their religious seminaries and homes, still the have failed to figure out what true Islam is.

We declare in the light of our probe and extensive research, that the ideology behind terrorism is the ideology of Wahhabism, Salafism.

People who are naive to the spiritual aspect of the religion of Islam are jumping to conclusions and they have begun to say that the ideology of hatred comes from the Quran. I would like to make it clear to everybody: that is not true. However, I cannot fully deny that terrorism does not have any flavour from the religion of Islam. Somehow or other, Islam has a part to play in the ongoing atrocities, but this happens when only the outer aspect of Islam is practised or researched.

If the knowledge of the Quran is not aligned with the Sufi doctrine of love, the Quran will always mislead masses.

The Quran will not guide people who are deprived of spiritual knowledge.

The source of wisdom and true religious, theological intelligence is the enlightenment of the heart. The source of true wisdom and divine intelligence comes only when the heart is completely purified. It happens when your inner devil is completely purgated and mortified. Those who practise Islam and do not make any attempt to purify their inner devil, either they make up another sectarian faction or they end up becoming Osama bin Laden.

All the Muslims who have either rejected the existence of Sufism or they do accept the importance of Sufism, however they do not have the right knowledge of Sufism, they will always fall prey to the tricks of the devil.

One thing is very clear: do not attempt to study the Quran until, or unless, your inner devil is completely purified.

If you have not purified your inner devil, you are better off without studying the Quran. This is not something that I have fabricated myself. [It is very easy for Muslims to reject] anybody that gives them the right understanding of the Quran and Islam, who wants to tell them, ‘It is not just Muslims who are a nation of a prophet sent by God, but also the Christians, Jews, Hindus; the he Sikhs are also good people. Any spiritual mentor or prophet who came to help them came from God.’ It is very unfortunate that Muslims do to accept any other religion as a true religion.

Do not judge Islam by what Muslims do or say. Islam is totally different from what Muslims practise and say today. It is very unfortunate that 99.999% of Muslims do not know true Islam.

Only the Muslim preachers who were Sufi and spiritual preachers were reliable.

Whether a Sufi was in India, Egypt, Pakistan, or any other country of the world, you would see one thing in common: they all loved humanity. They did not hate anybody and they did not condemn sinners.

They invited sinners. Sinners flocked around them and in their very company, the sinners repented truly and their hearts were enlightened. Their inner devils were purified. They found the straight path that initiates from their heart and goes directly to God.

The Quran is a very complicated book. Sometimes it appears as if the Quran is contradicting itself. This is not because Quran has a problem, it is because those who collected it did not put the verses of the Quran in the right, chronological order. You will oftentimes notice that a new chapter begins in such a style as if it is the continuation of something that is missing. The first message delivered to the Prophet Mohammad by Gabriel is found in 96:1 of the Quran, not the first chapter of the Quran [as it should be]. This is where the problem lies.

Before the Quran was revealed, the seed of the Quran was implanted in the heart of Prophet Mohammad. The seed of the Quran was the name of God. The name of God in spirituality is used to produce divine light.

Given a very special spiritual methodology, when God’s name is spiritually transmitted into the beating system of the heart of the disciple, God’s name is repeatedly mentioned inside the chamber of the heart. When God’s name strikes against itself, it generates divine light, divine energy. This is how the production of divine energy takes place in the heart. Therefore once the heart is activated, the production of divine energy will not stop again. Your heart will become a generator of divine energy. That divine energy will have all the attributes of God enclosed in it: compassion, love, forgiveness, blessings. One day, when your entire bloodstream is enriched with divine energy, your entire body has been purified and the souls within your bod have become enriched with divine energy, that is the moment when the attributes of God will manifest through you. A time will come when God will speak through your mouth. You’ll become a true embodiment of love on two legs.

The religion of Islam, if it is accompanied by spirituality and Sufism, is the religion of compassion, love, forgiveness. However what we see today is not Islam. The wrapper is Islam but inside it, there is a fire.

Whatever is inside you, that will come out. Most crows are black. Painting a crow white to make it look like a pigeon won’t actually change it into a pigeon. Even if you paint the crow white, it will not have the attributes of a pigeon. It’ll look like a pigeon but it won’t behave like a pigeon.

This is what is happening today in the guise of Islam. These are evil, barbaric, brutal, hateful creatures in the guise of Muslims today. Don’t take them as Muslims; they are Satans. They can be anything, anyone but Muslims. If you are a Muslim, you must imitate Khwaja Moinuddin Chisti, Abdul Qadir Jilani, Nizamuddin Auliya, Prophet Mohammad. How come in the Islam of [modern Muslims], Prophet Mohammad has no value? In this contemporary, Saudi-funded and Saudi-carved Islam, Prophet Mohammad has no place.

Zakir Naik of India has been recorded saying that according to him, believing in Prophet Mohammad is prohibited in Islam. To those who follow him: wake up! You’re following a wolf, a Satan. He is not a Muslim. Just think about it: how can this be Islam in which believing in Mohammad is prohibited? People should study the Quran and find out what it says about Prophet Mohammad and what he says about himself.

The Wahhabis say, ‘If you want to love God, become a Jihadist and God will love you. If you want to love God, put on an explosive jacket or drive a truck and run over 120 people and God will love you.’ This is nonsense; this is not Islam.

Islam is this: Quran said 3:31, ‘O’ Prophet Mohammad, tell them, if they want to love God, they must imitate you.’

[In contrast to what the Quran teaches] Zakir Naik says believing in Prophet Mohammad is prohibited.  He is an enemy of Islam, Prophet Mohammad, humanity and God. He is not a human being. There is no such thing in Islam which gives you the freedom of doing whatever you want to do and not follow Quran and Prophet Mohammad. Whatever your opinion is you cannot declare it to be the Quran and Islam.

Islam is Islam in which your opinion has no value. Islam is what comes from Prophet Mohammad and God. If you pollute it with your thoughts and opinion, it is not worthy of acceptance by anyone. This is the case today: Islam is completely polluted with opinions of people like Zakir Naik.

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Younus AlGohar’s Interview With ART TV
10th June 2016|ArticlesInterviews

Younus AlGohar’s Interview With ART TV

Younus AlGohar’s Interview With ART TV

The following are excerpts from Younus AlGohar’s interview with ART TV during his recent trip to Sri Lanka.

On The Difference between Islam and Islamism

Islam is a religion which was established some 1450 years ago by the Prophet of Islam, Prophet Mohammad. A book called the Quran was revealed upon his heart. Islam is a wonderful religion: it is a religion of peace, love and equality. Islam gave a lot of rights to women especially, in the age where people used to bury their daughters alive. Islamism is a segment which was invented by some religious fanatics.

It has been there for many centuries, but in the last few decades, Islamism has been promoted with the help of money and political power. Now we see that Islam is separated from Muslims. Most Muslims in the world are now practising Islamism, which is nothing to do with Islam itself.

The problem is: Islam has been subjected to a lot of adulteration. Modification has taken place and wrong interpretation of the word of God, Quran, has come into practice. As a result, people failed to understand the true meaning of the word of God. Many people who have been considered to be Islamic scholars have polluted the philosophy of Islam with their own personal opinion. As a result of this mixture of Islam and their personal opinion, people have developed a wrong concept and notion of Islam.

A new version of Islam has emerged, which is purely based on fighting with non-Muslims and killing every single person who does not belong to their philosophy and version of Islam. They call this Jihad. [This version of Islam is Wahhabism]. Even if those who do not follow this new version of Islam are Muslims, they are being subjected to a lot of persecution and massacre all over the world, especially in Pakistan. Wahhabism has become a powerful force, politically and financially.

Anybody, even if he is a Muslim, if he does not practise Wahhabism, in the eyes of Wahhabis, they’re considered to be non-Muslims and they’re being slaughtered.

Wahhabism is a set of beliefs which have been conceived by people who have opinionated Islam with their own personal perception. The pollution of their opinion has deviated the path of Islam from the true understanding of the religion. Wahhabism is a movement which started about 150 years ago; their leader, Muhammad Abdul Wahhab Najdi, is considered to be a revivalist in their circle. They believe Islam was corrupted and Najdi had purified Islam. Sufis – who used to embrace all religions, love everybody, sing and dance in love of God – have been declared as heretics. They have introduced their own very strict version of Islam which even the Quran does not support.

So Wahhabism is a religious ideology which is absolutely parallel to the original Islam.

On the Principal Sponsor of Wahhabism

The Wahhabi school of thought and their scholars give people the wrong interpretation of the Quran. They declare that this ideology comes from the Quran. It is a myth that the Quran was revealed in the Arabic language; 90% of Muslims do not understand the language, so whatever translation and meaning of the Quran is said to them, they have no other choice but to believe what they have been told.

This is where the problem occurs: the wrong interpretation and wrong meaning of the Quran has been hammered into the brains of people.

The wrong translation of the divine book has been spread around.

The driving force behind Wahhabism is not just the philosophy of Wahhabism, but it has been supported by a government.

Saudi Arabia is the country that, on a government level, supports Wahhabism. They financially and physically support Wahhabism. Anywhere in the world you see a mosque that has been funded by Saudi Arabia, they’re not just building and funding the mosque; they’re giving away the translation of the Quran and Islamic books which talk about the Wahhabi school of thought. They do not represent the true form of Islam.

Because of the oil money and manpower, the Wahhabi concept of Islam is spread all over the world; whereas the other segments within Islam – in particular, the Sufi thought – have never been supported by a government. [Sufis] don’t have enough resources, so their message of love and peace did not reach countries.

In the early 20th century, when this part of land [now known as Saudi Arabia] was governed by the Ottoman Empire, the British, with the help of the Al-Saud family, were able to defeat the Ottoman Empire there. Then, under the umbrella of the British government, there was a pact between Wahhabis and the Al-Saud family: the Wahhabis were to politically support the Al-Saud family and the Al-Saud would give the Wahhabis a free hand to spread their ideology. The pact was signed and it is still in practice.

Now the Al-Saud family are putting oil money in their pockets and they allow the Wahhabi scholars to impose the Wahhabi ideology in the country. They also send delegations all over the world to spread their word. This is a sort of pact between these two, which is working fine for them.

Saudi Arabia, apparently, is not supporting terrorism; but they are supporting those who harbour terrorism like the Wahhabi school of thought.

The Wahhabi school of thought is very intolerant. They want everybody to become a Wahhabi. A Wahhabi is one who believes in God but he doesn’t to respect the one who brought them the message of God. They don’t want to respect the Prophet of Islam. They do not respect Sufis. They don’t believe in the message of love and peace. They want to rule the world. They want to become the superpower. They want all the countries to submit to their ideology and they want to turn this world into an Islamic, global society in which they appoint their caliph and everybody lives under their rule. This is what their perception is.

On The Philosophy of Messiah Foundation International

Messiah Foundation International is a purely spiritual organisation. We do not follow any religion in particular, however we address all religions. We invite them to embrace the message of love and peace.

We do this through our teachings of spirituality in which we invite people to embrace purification of the heart, awakening of the spiritual heart and enlightenment of the heart. We invite people to mortify and purify the evil soul that everybody is born with. We invite them to root out all the negative traits from their characters – as a result of which they become wonderful human beings who respect humanity, who co-exist with other religions, atheists, etc.

If you believe in God or not, I shouldn’t be bothered. This is between you and God. As a human being, I should respect you and you should respect me. We should give each other some space. This is what MFI promotes.

We respect all messengers and prophets. We respect Krishna, Bhagwan, Ra Raam etc. We believe they all came from God. They’re different names and religions, but the source is the same. This is what we believe.

We’re focused on God and his love. We’re not restricted by boundaries created by religions. We understand all these religions were established by the same God. Rather than restricting ourselves to one particular religion or faith; we have broadened our view of embracing all and being more focused on the gist of every religion: love, equality and brotherhood.

On Why Youth Join ISIS

There is a motive behind it.

Western culture has reached all countries. Western culture means having a free life. You can have a girlfriend or boyfriend; you don’t need to marry them. You just need mutual consent: as long as your partner agrees to sleep with you, you don’t carry any guilt on your heart. You go to a bar, get drunk, sleep, have a hangover, take a tablet and go back to work. There is no sin.

The young generation born in America, Canada, the UK, Australia, etc. who come from a Muslim background are being bred and brought up in this kind of environment. They’re going through a crisis of dual identity.

When they come back home, they’re told, ‘You’re Muslim, don’t do this.’ When they go to work or college, they see everybody is doing it. They’re in a very complex situation. They do want to go along with that western, secular lifestyle, but when they come back home, they find totally the opposite environment.

Now we look at what ISIS, Taliban and other Islamist groups are doing. Drugs, killing and guns – everything is free [for them]. They’ve been sleeping with girls in Australia, Canada, America and the UK, but at the same time, they carry this guilt on their heart that they’re doing something wrong. They’re told, ‘Why don’t you come and join ISIS, where you’ll have more girls to sleep with? Where you will have more freedom? Where you will have drugs and alcohol – and everything has been allowed by God for you? Why don’t you do the (so-called) Islamic way?’ They are lured into it.

These people are grabbing girls from their hair and they’re selling them for $50, $40 and $10. Whereas, when they go into a disco bar, they cannot touch a girl until she agrees to go with them. In this secular society where we are living, you cannot force anybody to have sex with you. You have to be in mutual consent. But when they’re given an opportunity to go and have sex with ten young girls, and they’re told, ‘This is right, this is perfect; you deserve this,’ they have more freedom of fulfilling their lustful desires under the banner of a religion. It is a so-called religion, which is neither supported by the Quran nor God.

This is why the young generation is lured into this lunatic ideology of Wahhabism, terrorism.

On De-radicalisation

I understand they are radicalised through academic misconception: they give them a wrong ideology. We need to fix their concept. What is messed up is the religious interpretation of Islam and Quran. We have a dialogue with them and we tell them, ‘What Quran means is not what you believe today. This is what God [really] said.’ We give references from the Quran and from the noted Sufi scholars.

For example, suicide bombing. They are told, ‘If you put on a jacket full of explosives, blow yourself up with another 200 people, as soon as you die, you will go into paradise where 70 virgins will be waiting for you.’ This is wrong. This is a self-manifested ideology. There was a Companion of Prophet Mohammad who was fighting against the enemies of Islam alongside Prophet Mohammad; he got badly injured and he was in such pain that he took his own life. When it was reported to the Prophet Mohammad, Prophet Mohammad was really angry. Regarding this man who sacrificed so much for Islam, just because he committed suicide, Prophet Mohammad said, ‘He is going to end up in hellfire.’

You cannot commit suicide according to the Muslim faith. How can they allow suicide bombing? They’re doing it knowingly, on purpose. They’re not just killing themselves, but they’re claiming innocent lives of people. This is totally against the teachings of Islam and practice of Prophet Mohammad.

There is another saying in the Quran and in the Prophetic Traditions, ‘Killing one human being is equal to killing the entire humanity.’ This is the total Islamic narrative supported by the Quran and Prophet Mohammad.

Your God and my God is the same; you may be a Buddhist and I may be a Muslim and someone else may be a Christian, Hindu or Jew but so what? We are all children of God. Just the fact that I may be a Muslim and you may be a Hindu doesn’t mean we have different gods. God would never want one human being to kill another.

For example, if you have five children, all of them are equally amiable and lovable to you. You would never want one of your children to kill another one, being a human being. God loves his creation more than 70 mothers love their children; God cannot allow one human being to kill another. This is totally rubbish; it has nothing to do with Islam, the Quran or any other religion.

No religion allows killing of innocent human beings in the name of God or in the name of any religion.

On Spirituality as a Tool to Combat Radicalisation

We have two ways and both ways have to work together. On an academic level, we give them the right interpretation. On the other hand, we spiritualise them; we transmit divine energy into their heart and soul. As a result of this, when divine energy enters their body, the negative, evil traits start to diminish. They feel closer to divine energy, as a result of which they feel closer to divinity.

When you feel closer to divinity, you begin to respect humanity.

The problem is, the knowledge of spirituality hasn’t been very common in the recent times. People think it is just a thing of dreams and there is no truth in it. However, our spirit and our soul is our main reality. This body will perish one day, but the spirit will never perish. Spirituality is all about enlightening the spirits inside us with divine energy.

When the divine energy enters into the spirits and souls, instantly, the attributes of God begin to show. Those attributes become part of your character. You become lovable and compassionate. You begin to forgive people and live in a society where everybody is different, but you’re clung to humanity. You think, ’They also come from the same source that I come from.’ You begin to respect them. This happens when the evil traits are rooted out with the help of divine energy, and divine attributes begin to settle in the hearts as a result of it entering into the heart.

It is very simple. Water [in a glass of water] is cool; as soon as I put my finger in it, I feel coolness. If the water is really hot, I’ll put my finger in and I’ll feel the heat, because my finger is inside this liquid. If the liquid is hot, I’ll feel hot. If the liquid is cold, I’ll feel cold. Similarly, when the divine energy – the attributes of God – enters the heart, we instantly feel divine and the negative traits begin to diminish; they part with you.

On Futility of Converting to Different Religions

Initially, when I started coming here, people thought I am here to convert people. But no, I’m not here to convert anybody. For example, right now, you may be a Buddhist and you say, ‘I want to be a Muslim,’ and in five minutes, you become a Muslim. But if I ask you, ‘What difference do you feel now in you?’ the answer will be nothing. You’re still the same. So conversion doesn’t mean anything.

What you need to convert is your heart, from bad to good.

You need to become a good person. If you are not a good person, you will never become a good Christian, good Muslim or a good Hindu. Only a good person will become a good mother or father.

If Muslims are bad, they are bad because they are bad people. If Christians are bad, they are bad because they are bad people, not because their religion is bad. Religion is not bad, but what if people do not practise their religion properly? If you are suffering some disease and you do not take the medicine, you cannot blame the medicine because you are not taking it.

My message to people all around the world is that God is love. We’re all children of God. No Muslim is better or greater than a Christian or a Hindu. We’re all equal in the eyes of God. We should not hate anybody. Do not be fooled by any concocted theological ideology that you are a better race or religion, or that you are greater than everybody else – you are pure and others are impure. This is all crap.

You may practise any religion, but you must understand that God is love and love is God. One who doesn’t understand love can never understand God. This is the only message.

Religion comes second; first is humanity. We should respect human beings.

Whether somebody is following a bad or a good religion, they are not accountable to you or me. They are accountable to God. God will decide who is good and who is bad.

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Younus AlGohar Speaks to the Virakesari Newspaper
3rd June 2016|ArticlesInterviews

Younus AlGohar Speaks to the Virakesari Newspaper

Younus AlGohar Speaks to the Virakesari Newspaper

A delegation from the Virakesari Newspaper in Sri Lanka recently visited Younus AlGohar to discuss a variety of topics. The following are highlights from the interview.

On Spirituality: the Core of Religions

Messiah Foundation International is purely a spiritual movement. It has nothing to do with any religion.

Converting from one religion to another does not make any difference. It depends on the man. If you are a bad man, you will be a bad Christian; and if you leave Christianity and adopt Islam, you will be a bad Muslim. It is about the character of the man.

Spirituality has the answer. Spirituality will fix the man and make him a wonderful person with love and compassion. Spirituality is about bringing the attributes of God in a human being so he gets rid of hatred, greed, jealousy and arrogance; he begins to understand that everybody is the creation of one God. This happens when the inner devil is taken care of. Spirituality provides inner purification.

This the core of Buddhism, Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism), Sufism (Islam) and Kabbalah (Judaism). The message is the same, the outer is different. We are not talking about religions; we are talking about the core of religions. Spirituality is about becoming good and lovable. It is about coexisting in a [multi-religious, multicultural] society.

Everybody appreciates love, but it is very difficult to follow love, because there is something inside us which does not allow us to love everybody. Something inside us only prompts us to love ourselves. Everybody is thickly and deeply in love with himself. If you love yourself, you will not love anybody else. When you love everybody, that is when you a good human being.

Self-love will make you a monster; you will deprive everybody else of their rights.

You will want to grab everything for yourself, and that is causing problems.

Through spirituality, you will begin to love humanity and God. If you claim to love God but you hate his creation, that is not true love.

God is the one who created everybody; if you have true love of God, you will love everybody no matter who they are. People talk about love, but love is not easy to obtain. There are certain things in us that prevent us from the practice of love. Every human being is born with a negative source, a negative spirit. That spirit pushes him to do wrong, to hate, to obtain power and money, and deprive all others [of their rights]. That evil spirit is purified only with the help of spirituality.

This is what we are working on: raising awareness of spirituality among people of all religions.

Now we have so many problems coming out from religions: extremism, fanaticism, terrorism. This is because the religions have been modified; this is the not the original teachings of any religion. God doesn’t allow any human being being to kill another human being.

According to Judaism, if you kill somebody, you have destroyed your religion. The same thing is found in Islam. Prophet Mohammad said, Killing one person is equal to killing the entire humanity.’ It is very unfortunate that we have some Muslims in this world today who think that by killing people, they will go into heaven. Something is wrong; they have deviated from the true teachings of Islam. On the other hand, in Islam, we have Sufis who love everybody.

Bawa Muhaiyaddeen was a Sufi; he was Tamil and he couldn’t speak English. He went to the USA, where he would deliver lectures in Tamil and people were so inspired by his presence and the amount of love he shared with them. He would read the Quran and Jews, Hindus and Christians all would read the Quran with him. He was giving love to everybody. He never asked them to become a Muslim. Whether or not you are a Muslim, you are still creation of God. We should learn to love everybody. Such Sufis were the prime example of God’s presence on Earth. This is what we need in Sri Lanka today. People should practise spirituality, forget about their differences.

Without inner purification, people will never forget differences. Without inner purification, people will never get rid of hatred.

If a bulb is not working because the filament is burnt, no matter how many times we plug it in, it will not work until we fix the filament.

Similarly, no matter how many times we go to a temple, mosque, church or synagogue and listen to any number of religious scholars, nothing is going to change unless we go through this inner purification.

When you become a spiritual man, you serve all religions.

‘Buddha’ simply means enlightened one. When you enlighten yourself, you become Buddha. Hinduism is all about spirituality. ‘Aham Brahmasmi’ means ‘Brahma is inside me.’ Only those go to a temple who think Brahma, Vishnu and Krishan Ji are sitting in the temple. Those who bring them in their heart become holy; they become gurus.

The knowledge of spirituality is very secretive. With the help of this knowledge, every human being on Earth will become a holy person. This is the solution but we need to raise awareness of this knowledge.

This knowledge was not available, but it was part of every religion. When it was separated from religion, religion became useless. Even today, Muslims who do not practise Sufism are causing problems. Those who practise Sufism are good Muslims. Similarly, those who practise spirituality are good Hindus. Those who practise Kabbalah teachings are good Jews.

We need the knowledge of purifying our human instincts.

Due to greed, arrogance and jealousy, our human attributes have gone down and the animal attributes have come up. We look like human beings, we eat and walk like human beings, but we act like animals.

Religions have separated themselves from spirituality, this is why people are suffering. Although they are going to mosques and temples every day, they are not changing. In fact, you will see that a simple man may be a little better than those who are going to mosques and temples every day.

It is about the character, not about the religion. If a religion does not fix you and make you a good human being, it simply means the religion is not going inside your heart.

This is because you have lost the knowledge which would put the religion inside your heart; instead, the religion is only restricted to your lips. Spirituality is the knowledge which will purify your heart and enlighten you.

God has no religion. He sent many prophets and messengers and all of them brought down God’s message. No prophet or messenger said, ‘Go kill and hate people.’ The message of God is love. This love is achieved through practice of spirituality.

The force behind our body is our soul. When the soul leaves the body, the body is dead.

The knowledge which will revive and activate the soul is spirituality. The is the knowledge that awakens the soul. If your soul is dormant, you may be going into temples and churches, but you won’t be changing. Religion should change you. If you are a beast before you follow a religion and, after 20 years of practice of a religion, you’re still a monster, the religion is not changing you.

Religion is about character: changing the man from bad to good.

On Purification of the Ego

Sometimes you know what is good and bad, but then you feel something inside you is pushing you to do bad. Sometimes, you overcome the desire to do bad; sometimes you have weak moments in which you get carried away. [Spirituality helps] you overcome the force which inside you pushing you to do bad.

Spirituality concentrates on your inner man. For this, you don’t have to convert from one religion to another. Even if you don’t practise any religion, you don’t need it. You need to become good and spirituality can do that for you.

You’re already a Hindu, Christian or Muslim. If you follow spirituality, then you will become a good Muslim or Hindu, because your inner will be enlightened. The problem is not because of Muslims or Hindus; the problem is with bad Muslims, bad Hindus, bad Jews and bad Christians. They’re bad because their soul is not awakened. We need to fix that problem.

We teach people how to awaken the soul.

A lot of gurus come to Sri Lanka and talk about meditation. If your soul is not awakened, what will meditation do for you? [In their versions of meditation] with the power of visualisation, you imagine yourself in a garden or flying. This is a story; this isn’t meditation.

A true meditation is one in which your soul is awakened. You concentrate on your soul and your soul leaves the body. It reaches it heights, sees God and meets with different spiritual people or angels. That will happen when the soul is enlightened.

Our message for everybody is how to get rid of the hatred and the source of hatred. We have heard a lot of lectures. We have heard the Quran and Bible, but by hearing and listening to the lectures, nothing is changing. We are still the same.

If you have fever, medicine must be taken. Simply talking about the medicine will not solve the problem.

We say, ‘Everybody should love each other,’ but how? Everybody wants to love. When we see people are suffering, for a moment or two, we tell ourselves, ‘They are also human beings. They should not be suffering.’ Then we forget [about them]. We don’t practically force ourselves to do good because we don’t have any force inside us [to push us to do good]. The only force inside us is the force that drives us to do negative things.

Somebody is inside us which is stopping us from becoming good.

According to the Quran, when you go into a mosque, the prayer you do will stop you from doing bad. According to Islam, if you talk bad about somebody in their absence, for God, it is worse a sin than committing adultery. This is how strict God is about our character.

If I have five or six brothers and one of them becomes a Muslim and another becomes a Hindu, the fact that they are my brothers will never change. Just because they are my brothers, I will never want to harm them. In a similar way, we are progeny of Adam and creation of the same God. Why do we forget that before being a Muslim, Christian or Jew, we are brothers? Having the same father makes us brothers; what about the same God? God is greater than our father.

We have lost this message because our souls are dormant. When we all learn to purify our souls, the negatively will depart our bodies. Although we will still remain to be Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims, we will learn to appreciate that everyone is the creation of the same God and that nobody is lower or greater than anybody else.

The only thing that will make you greater person than others is the amount of love you have for God and humanity.

[Your greatness depends on] how tolerant you are to others, how peaceful you are and how helpful you are. That will happen when the source of evil is rooted out with the help of spirituality and God’s energy and love enter the heart. That is our message.

On the Method of Enlightenment

Spiritually, we transmit divine light into the heart. That light will enter the heart. For example, we will transmit the light of Ra Raam; it will enter your heart. Then you will be sleeping and your heart will keep saying, ‘Ra Raam’. Even when you are sleeping, it goes on because the heart doesn’t stop. The constant invocation of Ra Raam will produce divine energy, which will purify your souls. You don’t have to practise it; it is the practice of your soul.

Spirituality is not done by the physique. It is to be done by the soul.

Once the divine energies enter into the soul, it will become a volunteer. You will feel you are becoming a good person. You will notice that source that drags you to do bad is going away. You won’t feel like doing wrong things.  [You may start to feel love for someone you previously hated]. That will happen when God’s light accumulates in the heart.

Today, people have everything: business, money, women, etc. but some people still feel there is no peace in life.

Your body has everything; your soul needs something. The food of the soul is love and God’s light.

This is why you have all the luxuries of life, even then you feel a little uneasy and you lack peace of mind and heart. That is the demand of the soul, ‘I need some divine energy, I need some love.’

When love is missing from life, it is because the soul is not awakened. You need to awaken the soul.

This is not a method invented by me. It is a God-gifted method. God taught it to everybody. All prophets and messengers who came had this knowledge. Anyone who became a guru became a guru because of this knowledge.

We are addressing the souls. It is the practice of the soul. There is no physical activity because it is about souls. Spirituality is about the souls. The source of the body is the soul. When the soul is good, the body will be good.

People have so many diseases today; this is because the soul is weak inside. When you empower their souls, they will be healed. Thousands of people came to me and we did spiritual healing on them. Many people who were suffering from heart diseases came and their health was restored.

They take the divine energy and when their soul is fixed, their problems go away.

On the Different Names of God

There is no such thing as Muslim God or Hindu God. We have given different names to him, but there is only one God. Ra Raam, God, Bhagwan and Vishnu are different names but God is the same.

There are different names for water in Tamil, Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Hindi, French and other languages, but the substance is the same. Similarly, different names have been given to God, but the supreme power is the same. He doesn’t change. You can’t say he is only for Muslims or Hindus. God has many names.

Any name for God is great and worthy of respect.

One thing is important. According to science, our voice has vibration and energy. This energy does not die. In a similar way, God’s name, when we say it, is transformed into vibration. Some names have stronger vibrations; it depends. [There are varying potency levels for medicine] like Paracetamol: there is 500 mg and then we have 200 mg. The stronger the medicine is, the quicker it will work.

The name ‘Ra Raam’ is very strong. This is the only difference [between the names of God is] potency. Otherwise, you can call him with any name: you can call him Vishnu, Krishna, Allah, Bhagwan, God, Eloha, Elohim, etc.

On the Holy Black Stone

The Holy Black Stone (Maha Shiv Lingham) was brought by Shankar Bhagwan (Adam the Eminent One) from the heaven. The image of Kalki Avatar was placed inside. When he brought it down, he asked everybody to respect it and worship it. He put it in Kaaba, which is now a Muslim place.

Even according to the Quran, no human being should be stopped from going and worshipping the Holy Black Stone. Visiting that place has been made obligatory by God upon all human beings. This is oppression and tyranny that Muslims do not allow other religions to go there. The Quran directs that the entire humanity should be allowed to go there, but they don’t allow it, which means they don’t follow Quran.

Before Islam, the Kaaba had 360 idols. The Holy Black Stone was one of them.

According to Muslim beliefs, the Holy Black Stone is very sacred and the pilgrimage of Hajj is incomplete if you do not touch it, kiss it or receive blessings from it. It is sacred.

It created confusion among minds of many Muslims. They thought, ‘Hindus worship stones in their temples and when we come to Kaaba, we are also worshipping a stone. So what is the difference between Islam and Hinduism?’ Both religions come from God; it is the understanding and the method that differs. There is not much difference.

The Holy Black Stone is sacred for all human beings. All prophets kissed it, even Mohammad, the Prophet of Islam. Whenever he would come near the Holy Black Stone, he would cry in love.

On the Future and Terrorism

The future is good. The only religion that will come is the Religion of God: love. You’re all one, so love each other with the power of God’s love.

There will be two groups: people of hatred and people of love. Those who are good people will join the group of love no matter what religion they practise. People of hatred will join the other group which comprises the Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Wahhabism, etc.

Sometimes bad things are given a good label; people can only see the outer shape, outer layer, but they don’t know that this is bad. [In that case] they’re victims, but they should use their brain. It is not like God gave some people a brain and others were left without brains.

If I give you Panadol or Paracetamol for your fever, it is very familiar. However, if you say, ‘I never heard of this medicine before,’ you will definitely resist and research. You want to know what you’re taking. That is your duty.

If I give you poison and say, ‘This is Paracetamol,’ and you’re so naive that you don’t even want to know what you’re eating, who will you blame when you’re dead? It is about your life. Before taking the medicine, you should know what it is. Similarly, if somebody is telling you about your religion, you should study it. Consult the source of knowledge of your religion; for Islam, it is the Quran and the practice of Prophet Mohammad.

Someone who is becoming a Jihadi is a potential fool. It is all about lust and sex, not religion. If I tell you, ‘Kill that man and I’ll give you 70 women,’ you’re doing it for your lust, not your religion. If God announces today, ‘You can do anything to please me, but there is no reward,’ they won’t do it. God does not want you to kill anybody. For you, you may be Tamil or Sinhalese and someone else may be Indian or Pakistani, but for God, you’re all children of God. He wants to love everybody equally. He doesn’t care whether you’re born in Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan, America or the UK.

As I was saying, bad things have been given good labels and good things have been given bad labels. It is like there is a piece of gold and covered with silver, and there is a piece of silver covered with gold. Obviously, you will take the one which looks like gold. You do not know how to recognise what is gold and what is silver. You need to have the power of recognition.

People are sold on this idea of Jihad: why practise religion for 20-30 years when you can go to paradise in five minutes? This is a shortcut, but this is all wrong. This is not Jihad; this is hatred and God doesn’t like it.

God can use tsunamis, earthquakes or thunder. God does not need terrorists.

One tsunami can wash away thousands of people. For those who say, ‘We are God’s warriors,’ no, they’re not. God doesn’t need them. God can kill anybody, anywhere, at any time.

One thing is imminent: Kalki Avatar is the final destroyer. He will destroy [the terrorists], not good people.

There will be a final battle. On one side, there will be people of Kalki Avatar, Jesus Christ and Imam Mehdi. They will give justice and love to everybody. On the other side, there will be people of hatred, whoever they are.

The forces of Jesus Christ, Mehdi and Kalki Avatar will form a greater alliance. They will defeat them. With the help of God, they will overcome and overpower them. This place will become a beautiful place. There will be no hatred. Imam Mehdi will fill the Earth with justice. There will be no killing, no hatred and no fights. This will happen soon. We’re going in that direction.

Most of these terrorists were already gangsters.

When someone does bad things, they want to do it, but because they are a Christian or Muslim also, they think, ‘What I am doing is wrong and my Muslim brothers and sisters perceive I am a wrong person.’ They continue to do wrong things, but they have this burden of guilt.

People were told, ‘Come join ISIS and you will have more girls and women to sleep with than you have now, you will be able to use more kalashnikovs and guns and kill people than you are now – and you will do all this without guilt because you’re doing this for God.’ When you give this kind of concept to criminals, they feel sheltered. This is pure evil. Only one group among Muslims have this attitude and that is Wahhabis.

Wahhabis  don’t consider any other Muslim as a true Muslim.

If you are a Muslim and you do not agree with Wahhabism, Wahhabis think you are worse than non-Muslims.

This is why thousands of people are killed in Pakistan. Every day there is a suicide bombing in Pakistan. Most Pakistanis are Muslims; why are they killing Muslims?

It is not about Islam. It is about Wahhabism.

If you are not Wahhabi, they think you are not a true Muslim. They want the world to be a Wahhabi-dominated society. It is oil money; Saudi Arabia wants to become the superpower through the industry of terrorism.

There is no more Islam in practice. The Islam which was established by Prophet Mohammad is not in practice; they don’t believe in that Islam. This is their own version of Islam in which there is no blessing, love, compassion, respect for humanity or respect for women. This is their Islam; it was not designed by God. The one that has been designed by God was Sufi Islam, which they rejected. Sufi Islam promotes love and peace.

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Younus AlGohar’s Interview with ThatChannel.com
17th March 2016|InterviewsVideos

Younus AlGohar’s Interview with ThatChannel.com

Younus AlGohar recently visited Toronto, Canada, where he gave an interview with ThatChannel.com. There, he spoke on a variety of topics including going beyond religion and becoming the character/image of God. Man receives attributes of God, which is how we become compassionate and kind. He also spoke on the concept of the awaited one in all religions.

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Younus AlGohar’s Interview with Siyatha TV
13th November 2015|ArticlesInterviews

Younus AlGohar’s Interview with Siyatha TV

Younus AlGohar’s Interview with Siyatha TV

The following are selected excerpts from Younus AlGohar’s interview with Siyatha TV in Sri Lanka.

Religions and the Spiritual System

All the religions were established by great personalities. These personalities were sent by God, so no religion is bad. However, what happened in the last 100-200 years is that almost every religion has lost the spiritual system.

As a result of this spiritual system being destroyed, people are not truly aware of the soul of their religion, of the principle message of their religion.

This is why most Muslims are not good Muslims, most Hindus are not good Hindus and most Christians are not good Christians. And of course Buddhists who are not good Buddhists are so because they are not properly doing what they have been taught to do. This happens when you lose enlightenment, when you lose connection with God.

The problem is: people are still religious but something is wrong with their methodology. Some important part of the knowledge of the religion is missing. This is why they are misled into wrongdoings. When the youth see these religious people, they are not inspired by them because they always fighting. They are full of hatred.

The youth will never be inspired by these religious people; however the youth will be inspired by spirituality. The youth want to see results.

When they adopt spirituality and they feel good, they feel strength and they feel uplifting of their soul, they will definitely be inspired by spirituality. They will never be inspired by these religious people because they are not making any progress either within themselves or within the society. They are only making it worse, fostering more hatred and intolerance.

Spirituality is the key and solution to the existing problems.

Nowadays, people are changing their religions. I don’t think it’s going to make any difference because nobody is connected to God through any religion.

All religions come from God. If you are a Muslim and you want to study Hinduism, what is wrong with it? Hinduism also came from God. If you are a Muslim and you want to study the Bible, what’s wrong with it? The Bible also came from God. There is only one God. Either you are Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Jew or a Buddhist; it’s the same God, just different names. These objects are different manifestations of the same God.

Because of the lack spiritual knowledge in all these religions, people have become intolerant.

I’ll give you an example: one man works as a doorman, another works as an anchor and the third person works as a Chief Executive – but nobody is getting a salary. Does it make any difference? He is a doorman, he doesn’t get a salary. You are an anchor; you don’t get your salary. The Chief Executive doesn’t get his salary. So basically, you are not getting anything.

In a similar way, when you are a Muslim and you are not connected to the God. It doesn’t make any difference whether you become a Hindu, a Muslim or a Christian. If you are not connected to God; nothing is working for you. If you were connected to God as a Muslim, you would never leave your religion. If you are connected to God as a Buddhist, you would never leave your religion – because then it would not be about the religion. You would be connected with God.

You would respect that religion, because through that religion, you were connected to God.

A Brief Introduction to Kalki Avatar Lord Ra Gohar Shahi and His Mission

Lord Ra Gohar Shahi is sent by God and there are Divine Signs [proclaiming His advent].

His images have become prominent on the Moon, the Sun, on Mars and the Holy Black Stone. The Holy Black Stone is greatly revered and people, out of love and affection, kiss it. It is believed that when they kiss it, all their sins are washed away. God has manifested his signs in the form of images of His Divine Grace Lord Ra Gohar Shahi and people all over the world believe Lord Ra Gohar Shahi to be Kalki Avatar, Imam Mehdi and Messiah.

According to the divine plan, His Divine Eminence Kalki Avatar/Imam Mehdi/Messiah Gohar Shahi is here for the entire humanity, for everybody in this world. It is not physically possible for everybody to see him in person. That’s why these images have become prominent. If people look at the Moon, when they see the image of HDE Gohar Shahi, they can speak with that image and they will have a reply. They can also receive spiritual healing and spiritual grace. All those things can be obtained from the image on the moon.

He is love, He is for everybody and His purpose on Earth is to teach everybody love and peace. [He is] uniting all humanity.

Kalki Avatar Lord Ra Gohar Shahi is not a physical doctor; he is doing something which nobody can do. He can heal the wounds of the soul.

These wounds of the souls cannot be healed in any hospital by doctor. So people will approach His Divine Grace Lord Ra Gohar Shahi for their spiritual ailments and spiritual wounds – which nobody can [heal]. And His blessings are for everybody without any hindrance, without any limitations, without any discrimination for everybody.

Kalki Avatar right now is in occultation and physically is not making any appearances to common people. However, the time will come when he will become apparent and people will be able to meet with him. Through our representatives you may be in conversation with Lord Ra Gohar Shahi.

Prescribed Method of Meditation

Meditation that we propagate is a little different than what others describe. This meditation that we promote is done after the enlightenment of the heart and the soul. When the soul is enlightened, when the heart is enlightened then the souls inside our body become worthy of making a spiritual journey. When the journey is performed by these souls and they arrive at their respective spiritual station that is called meditation.

His Divine Grace Lord Ra Gohar Shahi has penned down a book on spirituality and this book is available online and it can be downloaded. It is available on www.amazon.com and other international book stores. If people study this book, they will understand the purpose of life. Maybe it will bring a change in their lives.

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‘You need to understand Wahhabism in order to understand why the world is going through the worst page of history.’ – Younus AlGohar
6th November 2015|ArticlesInterviewsVideos

‘You need to understand Wahhabism in order to understand why the world is going through the worst page of history.’ – Younus AlGohar

‘You need to understand Wahhabism in order to understand why the world is going through the worst page of history.’ – Younus AlGohar

The following are from Younus AlGohar’s Interview with ThatChannel.com

On Islamophobia

I do not know whether Islamophobia is the just term; it is a word that I personally do not agree with because the world has no fears or threats coming out from Islam. It’s a group of people who claim to be Muslims and they do not practice Islam. They are becoming a global threat. The term should be Wahhabiphobia. There is a particular denomination in Islam that does not consider any other Muslim as Muslims for except themselves.

[Wahhabis are] the ones who have been radicalised and who are responsible for spreading this radicalisation all over the world, especially among the Muslim youth.

The West shouldn’t be worried about Islam because Islam is not a threat to any part of the world. Islam is just like any other monotheist religion under the banner of Abrahamic Faiths, like Christianity or Judaism. Islam has the same roots [as them] and Islam is not a threat.

However, how people interpret and understand Islam – that’s the main issue today.

Radicalisation is really a worrying aspect of the Muslim world and we are working on it. We are trying to raise awareness of the fundamental and principle values of the religion which are the same in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. All of these are monotheist religions. Basically, the principle directives from God are the same in all three religions.

On the Role of Wahhabism and Saudi Arabia

It is very difficult. We are not hearing the accurate news from the channels. We do not know what is going on. However, I can tell you terrorism is not imported in any country.

For example, terrorism is not coming to Canada [from a foreign country]. You will have terrorism from a Muslim house in Canada. It will come from the Muslim house whose children have been going to a mosque. They believe their children are learning from the Quran and understand the religion – but in few years’ time, they will come to know that their sons have gone to Syria to become jihadists.

You do not become a jihadist overnight. You are not radicalised in few hours; it’s a mindset. It is a theory.

This theory is coming from this particular denomination in Islam, Wahhabism.

You need to understand Wahhabism in order to understand why the world is going through the worst page of history.

Wahhabis want to rule the world. They think they have the purest form of Islam and have the right to take their doctrine to every corner of the globe. Whoever accepts it becomes their friend and ‘part of Islam’. Whoever does not accept it – even if they are Muslims from other denominations of Islam – they’re alien to them. Wahhabis are so intolerant; they do not want to see anybody else for except themselves.

This Wahhabi thought-process is very intolerant – [it is especially taught] in the mosques which are funded by Saudi Arabia.

There are two things in Saudi Arabia:

1 – The Saudi Royal Family

2 – The Religious Regime

Terrorism is the combination of both.

The religious doctrine is coming from their religious scholars and money is coming from the Royal Family.

What the world sees is different [from reality]. The world will see the Royal Family coming and meeting with David Cameron, Bush, Obama etc. Obviously, they look very holy and display very meek characters. You will never imagine they can be funding terrorists. However, they are the main mastermind and they are working in collaboration with their religious regime in Saudi Arabia.

On Why the Saudi Royal Family is Hypocritical

The internet is full of news. Everybody knows that [Saudi Arabia is funding terrorism].

This is the thing: people have to be diplomatic. On one side, there are some political issues and behind the scenes, something else is going on. Sometimes you cannot verbalise what you have seen because there are so many fatal consequences. If you alienate [yourself] from the international world community, you will suffer. So they have to show something and they have to do certain things behind the scenes.

We are living in a very hypocritical world. Sometimes diplomacy is hypocrisy.

I say it loudly and clearly that the Saudi Royal Family is supporting terrorism all over the world.

On How to Give Hope to the Youth

Give them understanding of spirituality. Give them understanding of the value of human life, mutual tolerance and harmony in the society. Tell them things that they can understand that they can relate to. If we tell them stories that they do not relate to, they will never understand.

On the Future

What I see today worries me a lot,  but then my faith and belief in God gives me hope that future is bright and there will be no hatred. Everybody will love everybody else and we will be living in a perfect brotherhood, in a universal society.

We can have hope for hope. I personally believe the future is full of love after a period of darkness.

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ThatChannel.com: Islamophobia and Radical Islam in Today’s Society
27th October 2015|InterviewsVideos

ThatChannel.com: Islamophobia and Radical Islam in Today’s Society

Interview on the Liquid Lunch programme with Hugh Reilly and co-host Sandra Kyrzakos. Younus AlGohar opens up about his views on radical Islam (Wahhabism), Islamophobia and the tensions between different groups.

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Younus AlGohar is the Representative of the Awaited One Lord Ra Riaz Gohar Shahi and CEO of Messiah Foundation International. He has been recognised as an Ambassador of Peace and Man of Valour. He is an advocate of divine love and interfaith harmony.
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New Video: 12 Aima-e-Karam Aur Un Ke Batni Maratib | By Younus AlGohar

#AskYounusAlGohar - The 11 Imams have come and gone, who were the following spiritual dignitaries and who is the 12th Imam?

Younus AlGohar gives the chronological order of the spiritual system of Imam-hood and the enlightened progeny of Prophet Mohammad.

Main Points:

- The enlightened progeny of Prophet Mohammad carried on for 7 generations. From the 1st generation to the 7th, as they continued to marry into unenlightened people, the divine light remained albeit decreased. The 8th generation was completely void of Divine Light.

- There have been 11 Imams from the enlightened progeny. They all had two types of duties: physical and spiritual. The physical ranks of all the 11 Imams was given to the 12th Imam, Imam Abu Hanifa. And the spiritual ranks were reserved for Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani.

- Imam Abu Hanifa was titled Imam-e-Azam because of all the physical ranks he attained. And Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani was titled Ghous-e-Azam because of all the spiritual ranks he attained.

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